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Do founders move into enterprise too early, underestimating how much runway remains in the SMB market?

12 recorded positions from 4 people, first said Jun 13, 2022. They do not agree — the readings below are what each one actually argued.

Smb market runway is underestimated causing premature enterprise moves

Harry Stebbings · Jun 13, 2022

Startups are rushing to move upmarket to enterprise far too early, while they are still massively undersaturated in SMB

At under $1M ARR there is enormous remaining SMB opportunity, so there is no need to rush

Scope: based on his own portfolio companies

30:36 20VC: Hubspot Co-Founder Dharmesh Shah on The 3 Risks All Startups Face, Angel Investing Rules; No Founder Meetings and No Due Diligence, SMB vs Enterprise; Lessons on Pricing, Distribution and Why You Should Resist Going Enterprise

Harry Stebbings · Jan 24, 2024 · hedged

A lot of companies try to move into enterprise far too soon — e.g., at around $1M ARR, when the SMB market is still much bigger

The SMB market is a lot bigger than $1M of ARR

41:51 20Sales: How to Scale Into Enterprise Effectively and the Biggest Mistakes Made When Making the Move From PLG to Enterprise, Why Discovery Today is F***** & The Biggest Lessons on How to Do Sales Team Compensation with Sean Murray, CRO @ Greenhouse

Harry Stebbings · Sep 11, 2024

One of the biggest mistakes founders make is expanding customer segment too soon instead of doubling down where they are already strong

The existing segment is far deeper and richer than founders think — often only 1% penetrated

Scope: applies to moves both up into enterprise and down into SMB

29:08 20VC: Scaling ServiceNow to $5BN in ARR | Leadership Lessons from Doug Leone, Frank Slootman and Bill McDermott | VC Value Add: Is it Real and Why the Worst VCs are "Seagull VCs"

AJ Tennant · Oct 23, 2024

The worst mistake an early-stage sales organization can make is segmenting too early and moving all sellers far upmarket

If every seller only chased the Fortune 50/100 you would generate no revenue for nine to twelve months while reps still need to be paid

Scope: early-stage companies

15:28 20Sales: Biggest Lessons Scaling Slack from $6M to $1BN in ARR | How to Build a Customer Success Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | The Framework to Hire All Sales Reps: Take-Home Assignments, Hiring Panels and more with AJ Tennant @ Glean

Harry Stebbings · Jun 23, 2025

Founders move into enterprise too early and underestimate how large the SMB market is

HubSpot built for fifteen years on SMB, showing the segment has far more runway than founders assume

37:18 20VC: The Wild Story Raising $450M From Masa and Softbank | Why My Biggest Mistakes Came From Listening to VCs | Why 100 VCs Turned Us Down | Why European Founders Are Tougher Than US Founders with Johannes Reck, GetYourGuide

Harry Stebbings · Aug 4, 2025

Companies often move into enterprise too early, and long enterprise sales cycles make it harder to judge whether a rep is succeeding

Enterprise cycles are longer, so closure signals arrive much later

46:59 20Sales: $0-$3.7BN: The Databricks CRO's Playbook to Build the Fastest GTM Engine in SaaS History | How Databricks Beat Snowflake | How To Build a Sales Org of 5,000 and Close $190M Deals with Ron Gabrisko

Focus middle market first rather than both extremes

Tom Blomfield · May 13, 2024

Post-AI, the old advice to sell to other startups is now bad; B2B SaaS companies should start mid-market and move upmarket as fast as they can

Big companies are more willing to spend on this than ever because every manager is being asked by their boss what AI will do to the company and most have no good answer, so they are looking to startups for help

Scope: DevTools startups selling to startups may still be an exception; much of it starts as innovation budget and proof-of-concept spend

45:59 20VC: Behind the Scenes at Y Combinator: The Interview Process | What the Best & Worst Do in the Program | Do the Best All Raise Pre-Demo Day & YC's Fundraising Advice to Startups | Why the Value is in Application Layer AI with Tom Blomfield

AJ Tennant · Oct 23, 2024

Early-stage companies should start in the middle market rather than trying to sell to both the Fortune 100 and SMBs at once

Trying to sell to everyone at once means failure; the middle market gives you more cycles and at-bats to reach product market fit

Scope: applies when first going to market

7:42 20Sales: Biggest Lessons Scaling Slack from $6M to $1BN in ARR | How to Build a Customer Success Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | The Framework to Hire All Sales Reps: Take-Home Assignments, Hiring Panels and more with AJ Tennant @ Glean

Also on the record

Kaz Nejatian · Aug 14, 2024

Shopify has made a clear strategic shift toward enterprise and large existing brands, having realised bigger established retailers are more valuable than startups like Allbirds

Larger, older commerce enterprises are better customers than the long tail of small merchants who mostly stay small or die

34:29 Established larger retailers are more valuable customers than small startups

Harry Stebbings · Aug 14, 2024

Shopify did not go upmarket; it simply stopped saying no to the enterprises that already wanted it, because the product finally became ready for them

Shopify used to actively turn away large retailers because it refuses to sell software that only works in demos; now the product genuinely works for them, but Shopify is still not an enterprise software company and writes no bespoke enterprise code

34:53 Enterprise adoption followed naturally once product was ready not a deliberate upmarket push

Harry Stebbings · Jun 13, 2022 · hedged

Startups often move to enterprise as a desperate search for a market when they lack product-market fit, and the same pattern drives premature second products

35:39 Premature enterprise moves and premature second products reflect a desperate search for pmf not strategy

AJ Tennant · Oct 23, 2024

The signal to go fast upmarket is delivering clear repeatable success in the middle market plus two or three successful experimental deals in the 5,000–15,000 employee segment

Once you can repeatedly get customers to value and success at that size, you should accelerate

11:37 Repeatable middle market success plus pilot deals signals readiness to move upmarket

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