Are prospective founders given an honest picture of what founding actually costs them?

Harry Stebbings · Jun 5, 2023

Podcasts like his own glamorize entrepreneurship, and if the true brutality of it were shown nobody would do it

Scope: said semi-jokingly about his own show

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Christian Lanng · Sep 27, 2023

A major problem of the last six to seven years is that we told everyone they should become a founder without telling them what that actually means

Scope: about the last six to seven years

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Scott Farquhar · Oct 9, 2023

The biggest startup myth is that startups are glamorous; the perception is survivor bias and most startups are extremely hard and fail hard

People only hear from the companies that survived two or three years in; his own early days were treated as unemployment, not a career

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Fernando Fanton · Jul 27, 2025

The pain of founding a company is drastically underappreciated: the first two or three years of searching for product market fit mean years with nothing, feeling like the stupidest person alive

From his own experience founding companies — no money, negative ego, friends and early employees having staked their lives on you

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Max Junestrand · Jan 26, 2026 · hedged

Had he known in advance how all-consuming thinking about nothing but the company would be, he would have handled disappointments and neglected parts of life better

For two and a half years he has thought about nothing but the company, unlike earlier life where switching between contexts and activities provided relief; having that expectation would have helped him handle disappointments and neglected parts of life better

Scope: reflection on his own experience

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Tobias Lütke · May 4, 2026

People overestimate how good CEO jobs are, because the role means spending nearly all your time on what is going wrong

You mostly hear about failures, departures and people's health issues for weeks on end, which puts you in dark places — he keeps a folder of positive notes as a counterweight

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Arvind Jain · Jul 11, 2026

Being a founder/CEO is not a glamorous job but one of the most stressful things a person can do, requiring a degree of craziness

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Avichal Garg · Apr 11, 2022

Founder naivete is functional: if you fully understood the challenges ahead you probably wouldn't embark on the journey at all

Not understanding what you're getting into is precisely what lets you go through with it

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Cliff Obrecht · Jan 27, 2023 · hedged

Not thinking too hard about how difficult something will be is an advantage for a founder

That naivety lets you just say yes to the idea and start unpacking what needs to be solved rather than being deterred

Scope: describes it as his own personal disposition; 'probably plays well'

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Matteo Franceschetti · Nov 20, 2023

No human being would start a company like this if they knew in advance what it takes, so founders need naivety plus the stamina to handle things when they go wrong

You need to believe it's 100x easier than it is in order to begin at all

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Christian Lanng · Sep 27, 2023

Prospective founders should honestly reckon with the cost to family life, connections and friendships, because you will likely lose almost all friendships outside the company

After 15 years he has two or three people left who still talk to him; the only friendships he retained were with people he worked with

Scope: based on his own experience

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Max Junestrand · Aug 15, 2025

His main regret is failing to juggle work intensity with life outside it, having let close friendships lapse

Being fully in it to win it demands personal sacrifice — he has around 50 unanswered texts from people he used to be close to

Scope: most other things he regrets would have been hard to know beforehand

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Sebastian Siemiatkowski · Feb 16, 2026

The right way to handle brutal public pressure is to treat it with gratitude as the thing you signed up for by choosing to compete at this level

Like a footballer dreaming of a Champions League final, the pressure is inseparable from the opportunity he wanted; reframing hostile interviews as what he signed up for is the only way to look at it

Scope: he still admits crying and feeling depressed at times; years of experience have thickened his skin

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Aravind Srinivas · Jun 15, 2026

Building a company is extremely hard and the right response is to do it anyway rather than wish you hadn't started

That is simply how it works — you do it despite the difficulty

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Christian Lanng · Sep 27, 2023

For 99% of startups, VCs will own most of the company by year six or seven and the founder's cumulative salary will be less than they'd have earned working elsewhere — and that's the lucky case

17:51 Founder economics are worse than employment for almost everyone

Christian Lanng · Sep 27, 2023

Founders' lives become so extreme — high-stakes fundraising, constant travel — that they lose connection with ordinary reality and can no longer relate to old friends

After staring people down across a $100m funding round, a $100 poker game can't excite you; after 150-200k miles a year and four years living in hotels there's nothing ordinary left to talk about

18:49 Extreme stakes detach founders from ordinary life

Akin Babayigit · Jun 26, 2023

The claim that your life will necessarily suck while building a startup is wrong — what makes life suck is doing work that doesn't matter, not working hard

His life was miserable at the tail end of Facebook working two hours a day because nothing he did mattered and he feared being found out, whereas at Tripledot he worked extremely hard and loved it

20:42 Life sucks from meaningless work not from hard work itself

Parker Conrad · Oct 3, 2022

His standing advice to anyone considering starting a company is don't do it — it's a terrible idea and a soul-sucking experience — though nobody ever listens

His own experience included years pitching 70 VCs unsuccessfully, near-total non-response when he tried to start something new, and being unhireable for leadership roles after seven years at an unknown startup; he started both later companies out of necessity rather than desire

33:49 Standing advice is dont found a company despite personal success

Harry Stebbings · Jul 18, 2022

Nobody warns founders that there is never an end to the working day — if you're doing it well there is always more you could do, and that never goes away

59:10 Endless workday is never warned about