Does becoming a better leader come from financial security and wealth, or from the richness of life experience such as hardship and parenthood?

Shishir Mehrotra · Sep 25, 2020

Parenting restores a beginner's mindset, which makes you better at learning yourself and at helping your team stretch

Teaching a kid to ride a bike or work a hard math problem reminds you what 'I don't get it yet, but I will' actually feels like — as does learning guitar alongside his daughter, who is racing ahead of him

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Hugo Barra · Nov 9, 2022

People who put themselves through struggle early in their careers become more resilient and perform better later in leadership roles or as founders

Only by going far outside your comfort zone do you really learn

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Hugo Barra · Nov 9, 2022

Working hard is not enough; you must put yourself far outside your comfort zone to build real resilience and learning, and that early struggle predicts doing better later in leadership

Resilience is built by discomfort, not effort alone

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Hugo Barra · Nov 9, 2022

You have to be resilient to be a strong leader, and that resilience only comes from putting yourself through real struggle outside your comfort zone

His own four years in Beijing running a P&L at Xiaomi amid language, culture, politics and a brutal work ethic 'kicked his ass' and formed him; Tony Fadell's early General Magic years did the same for him

Scope: also something he thinks should be taught to children

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Hugo Barra · Nov 9, 2022

Leaders must have survived a big career struggle; people who have never been out of their comfort zone cannot handle crisis as well as those with battle scars

Struggle builds the resilience needed to stay calm in battle moments, and he has seen the difference in people he's hired

Scope: will rarely hire someone without such a story; personal life struggles can serve the same function

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Dave Clark · Jul 17, 2023

Having children makes a leader more patient, more humble and better able to appreciate people as whole persons

You see your own behaviours mirrored in your kids, the physical work of parenting is humbling and keeps you connected to the real world, and you come to see people as a composition of their kids, family and work

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Mike Hudack · Sep 13, 2024

Having children almost always makes you better at work rather than being a tradeoff against it

Coming home to them washes the day away and resets you, and talking to his eight-year-old about company decisions reinforces his own thinking — one makes you better at the other

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Yamini Rangan · Mar 18, 2025

Being a parent makes you a more patient leader

What she goes through with her teenagers mirrors what she goes through at HubSpot, which is itself in its teenage stage

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Harry Stebbings · Oct 13, 2025 · hedged

The richness of his life experiences — kids, wisdom, pain, difficulty — rather than money or a capped financial downside, has made him a better leader

He worries less, so he is more emotionally neutral

Scope: offered as his own experience

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Mike Cannon-Brookes · Oct 13, 2025

Becoming a better leader is not related to money but to the richness of life experience — kids, wisdom, pain and difficulty

Having kids made him far more empathetic to employees; going through hard experiences makes you wise, provided it doesn't leave you gnarled and hardened

Scope: as long as the experiences make you wise rather than hardened

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Sridhar Ramaswamy · Feb 10, 2025

Wealth does not make leaders better — it can make them callous and too tolerant of massive risk, and being personally unaffected financially by the outcome is not a positive

A leader answers to employees, shareholders and customers, so it isn't always about swinging for the fences

18:49 Wealth can make leaders callous and too risk tolerant not better