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Do investors who have lived through prior market cycles add distinctive value during downturns?

4 recorded positions from 4 people, first said Dec 6, 2021. The readings below are distinctions drawn on the record, not opposing camps.

Cycle tested investors add value by holding the long term picture during downturns

Michael Eisenberg · Dec 6, 2021

Who sits around the board table and who your co-investors are matters enormously, and today many boards lack steady hands who have seen a downturn

Learned from 1999-2000 that fears and true colors come out in hard times; entrepreneurs listen to their board, and investors who have never seen a 50% drawdown or who fear reporting bad news at Monday partner meetings will drive founders and boards crazy

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Hunter Walk · Jan 30, 2023

Partnering with someone who has lived through multiple business cycles produces better decision frameworks, provided you don't over-learn the lessons of past eras

Satya's experience of institutional venture in 1998-2000 and 2007-2011 prevented Hunter's bad ideas while letting the good unconventional ones through, generating good debate and decisions

Scope: markets today are not the same as the nineties, so past lessons shouldn't be over-applied

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Kevin Systrom · Feb 22, 2023

People who have lived through prior cycles do better than first-timers because they recognize patterns and stop extrapolating the present

Zero interest doesn't last forever; when the music stops there aren't enough chairs, and pattern recognition makes you quicker to correct mistakes

Scope: you still make the same mistakes, just fix them faster

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Eléonore Crespo · May 9, 2025

The most experienced investors add value in shaky markets because they've seen the cycle before and can hold the long-term macro picture.

They know a shaking market recovers in a few years, so they push for aggression rather than transmitting panic.

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