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In the zero interest rate era, did founders and investors err toward too much aggression or too little?

5 recorded positions from 5 people, first said Sep 18, 2023. They do not agree — the readings below are what each one actually argued.

Too much capital not too little caused zirp era distortions

Harry Stebbings · Jan 10, 2024

The venture industry, not founders, is responsible for the excesses of the last cycle — investors over-funded and force-fed companies capital

The 'let's get back to building the old way' narrative on podcasts dodges the fact that the industry did the over-funding

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David Frankel · Oct 14, 2024

The core sin of the ZIRP era was simply too much capital, stuffed down entrepreneurs' throats, which drove all the other distortions.

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Also on the record

Miles Grimshaw · Sep 18, 2023

The most instructive thing about the zero-interest-rate era is not the excesses themselves but how great leaders reacted and corrected afterwards

Everyone can list the 2020-2022 silliness; the transferable lesson lies in leadership behavior after the regime change

73:01 The transferable lesson is post zirp leadership correction not the excesses themselves

Adam Fisher · Jan 22, 2024

The biggest sin of the ZIRP era was not inflated valuations but the belief that you could be the third, fourth or fifth player in a market and still succeed

If you're not the pioneer you're riding someone else's wave — it helps you raise, recruit and even sell, but it isn't your wave, and it's the clearest path to failure

66:59 Zirp eras real mistake was believing non pioneer players could succeed not inflated valuations

Shardul Shah · Sep 16, 2024 · hedged

The sins of the zero interest rate era were that the best founders didn't grow aggressively enough and investors didn't maximize liquidity opportunities

47:14 Zero rate era erred toward too little aggression not too much

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