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How should AGI be defined?

7 recorded positions from 7 people, first said Jun 30, 2023. They do not agree — the readings below are what each one actually argued.

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Edwin Chen · Jul 21, 2025

AGI arrives around 2028 if defined as automating the job of the average engineer, and around 2038 if defined as curing cancer

56:16 Agi timeline depends entirely on definition 2028 for engineering 2038 for curing cancer

Douwe Kiela · Jun 30, 2023 · hedged

On OpenAI and Anthropic's definition of AGI — systems capable of doing the majority of economically valuable human tasks — we are within five to ten years of that economic displacement

Once AGI is defined in capability/economic terms rather than consciousness terms, current systems are not far from that bar

37:10 Economic task based agi definition puts displacement within five to ten years

Richard Socher · Aug 18, 2023

A system that only predicts the next token should not be called generally or super intelligent; genuine intelligence requires having its own goals

Pure token-prediction maximization would be satisfied by everyone only ever saying 'a', which is not an interesting or fulfilling intelligent existence

39:22 Genuine intelligence requires having own goals not just next token prediction

Harry Stebbings · Jul 28, 2025 · hedged

The operative definition of AGI is whatever Sam Altman and Microsoft decide it is

58:01 Agi definition is whatever openai and microsoft contractually decide

Nick Frosst · Sep 1, 2025

We are not at AGI today

People do not treat language models the way they treat people

13:04 People not treating models as people shows we havent reached agi

Demis Hassabis · Apr 7, 2026

AGI should be defined as a system that exhibits all the cognitive capabilities the human mind has

The brain is the only existence proof we have that general intelligence is possible, so it sets the bar

4:46 All human cognitive capabilities is the bar

Ethan Mollick · Jul 31, 2024

The useful version of the question is concrete capability specification — e.g. can it do a full legal review of a document, or write an academic paper end to end from a dataset

Concrete tasks decompose into answerable questions about hallucination rates, token-vs-word handling, precedent, multilingual ability and context window size

42:35 Concrete task specification beats abstract agi debate

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