Did Tiger Global's aggressive growth-investing strategy help or harm the venture ecosystem?
7 recorded positions from 5 people, first said Sep 12, 2022. They do not agree — the readings below are what each one actually argued.
Tiger returns will be decent not huge not losing money given pref stack position
Harry Stebbings · Feb 27, 2023 · hedged
Tiger and Coatue will perform to an averagely good level for their own capital base and LPs, who have different return expectations than traditional VC LPs
Their investors expect a different return profile, so average-good performance meets the mandate
Scope: 'I think they'll be okay'
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Harry Stebbings · Aug 25, 2025
Tiger's returns will be better than people give them credit for — not huge, but they won't lose money
They sit at the top of the pref stack in companies doing $50-60M ARR at $300-400M prices with three to five years of runway, and hold positions in winners like Scale and OpenAI
Scope: okay returns, not huge money
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Hussein Kanji · Jan 20, 2025 · hedged
Tiger in 2021 was selling a capital-deployment product rather than a returns product — buying the index at $200M commitment sizes — and it failed because they overpaid, though the appeal to LPs was rational
LPs with huge sums that must go into tech needed someone who could absorb a lot of money and play the whole market for them
40:37 Tiger sold capital deployment not returns the lp appeal was rational but they overpaid
Harry Stebbings · Jan 20, 2025
The flaw in the index-buying strategy is assuming outcome probabilities are independent of how much capital goes in, so that paying up merely trims a 5x to a 3x
Outcomes are not equiprobable regardless of price and capital deployed
41:10 Index buying wrongly assumes outcome probability is independent of price and capital deployed
Byron Deeter · Aug 25, 2025
Tiger's impact on the venture ecosystem was incredibly mixed — genuine positive disruption and big thinking alongside reckless overfunding and absent governance
They brought creativity and scale of ambition worth applauding, but also deal work and non-governance the industry still has to clean up
68:29 Mixed positive disruption and reckless overfunding without governance
Will Quist · Sep 12, 2022 · hedged
Tiger will retrench and deploy a smaller annual quantum of capital on the private side, but its core hypothesis was largely correct
Companies do become growth stage very quickly, at which point you can take the data, model it and build a portfolio around the standard deviation of outcomes; Tiger's error was deploying too much capital with too loose a filter, not the underlying thesis
39:25 Tiger hypothesis was correct just overdeployed so expect retrenchment not repudiation
Jason Lemkin · Aug 9, 2023 · hedged
Tiger's massive momentum investing strategy was admirable and worked while momentum lasted, but momentum investing stops working once the momentum stops; vehicles like SoftBank's will die and then reappear when multiples get insane again
These are fundamentally high-multiple vehicles, so their viability tracks the multiple cycle
61:20 Momentum investing strategies cycle with the multiple cycle and will reappear
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