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Should the agent orchestration layer be vendor-neutral, or will platform vendors only build agents for their own ecosystems?

5 recorded positions from 3 people, first said Jun 24, 2024. They do not agree — the readings below are what each one actually argued.

Orchestration should be vendor neutral since app vendors only build for their own platforms

David Luan · Jun 24, 2024

The most probable reason the agent vision fails is incumbents locking users into walled gardens, since agents are fundamentally a rebundling of software that must span the functional silos work actually crosses.

Software today is bundled functionally (Notion/Google Docs, Salesforce, Workday) but real work spans all those domains, so an agent has to bridge them to become a higher-level thing.

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Aidan Gomez · Aug 19, 2024

Copilot has the right idea but won't be the product that augments the enterprise workforce, because it is siloed inside the Microsoft ecosystem

Enterprises use Microsoft alongside Salesforce, SAP, HRM systems and internal software, so real workforce augmentation requires a platform for building assistants that is agnostic to any single toolset and prioritizes tools by what the market actually uses

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Daniel Dines · Dec 18, 2024

The orchestration layer should be vendor-agnostic — the 'Switzerland' of platforms — and application vendors will only build agents for workloads inside their own platforms

Salesforce has no interest in providing amazing connections to SAP and vice versa, so an orchestration engine must be neutral to give equally good access to all platforms

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Also on the record

Daniel Dines · Dec 18, 2024

Salesforce's ambition to own the full agent suite will fail because customers won't move their data out of systems of record into Salesforce

A large US healthcare CIO said he would never put Epic data into Salesforce to create an agent; customers will instead use connectors feeding agents only the data needed and keep orchestration agnostic

21:20 Salesforces full agent suite ambition fails because customers wont move data out of systems of record

Daniel Dines · Dec 18, 2024

There will be substantial demand for cross-platform agents because most automation tasks require data from two or more systems simultaneously

Most RPA tasks today already work across platforms, not within a single one

22:14 Cross platform agent demand is substantial since most automation spans multiple systems

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