Should investors preempt Series A rounds immediately after seed, before product-market fit is proven?
4 recorded positions from 4 people, first published Aug 2010. They do not agree — the readings below are what each one actually argued.
Preempt only with extraordinary founder plus revenue or oss traction
Ed Sim · published Oct 27, 2023
Ownership always matters, but investors must balance it against valuation and should skip preemptive rounds where the company hasn't been de-risked enough since the prior round
Over the last few years companies raised three rounds in twelve months with too few new data points to justify re-investing at each step; ownership matters especially in a lower-multiple exit world
35:46 20VC: The Three Types of Seed Round Today, Why Seed Has Never Been More Competitive, Why Pricing Has Never Been Higher, Why Boards at Pre-Seed Can Be Helpful & How Too Much Cash Too Soon Can Harm Companies with Ed Sim, Founder @ Boldstart
Martin Mignot · published Aug 11, 2025
Rapidly preempting a round can make total sense and produce amazing returns when there is an extraordinary founder plus revenue or open-source traction
Index has done it on a couple of open source companies with strong rewards
Scope: conditional on extraordinary founder and revenue or open-source traction
33:26 20VC: Figma, Scale, Wiz: Inside Index's Decacorn Factory | Decision-Making, Investment Process, Biggest Lessons, Biggest Misses | Why Gross Margin is a Fallacy at Seed | Never Turn Down a Deal on Price with Martin Mignot, Partner @ Index Ventures
Also on the record
Harry Stebbings · published Aug 11, 2025
Given how competitive Series A rounds are, it is rational to preempt the A almost immediately after the seed and accept the risk that the company never finds PMF
By the time PMF is evident it is too late to get into the round, so you have to stuff the company with cash as early as possible
33:06 Rational to preempt immediately after seed despite pmf risk
Paul Graham · published Aug 2010
Investors will increasingly be unable to wait for traction before putting in significant money, because more powerful founders will force money upfront.
Startups hate the wait-for-traction pattern because it creates deadlock and seems slimy; as founders gain power they'll make investors commit earlier.
source Rising founder power will force investors to commit money before waiting for traction
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