How much should founders weigh dilution when deciding how much capital to raise?
83 recorded positions from 48 people, first said Feb 11, 2021. They do not agree — the readings below are what each one actually argued.
Raise to the next milestone not the maximum valuation
Matan Bar · Feb 11, 2021
Fundraising should be driven by setting goals and working out the resources needed to hit them, rather than following a consistent fundraising strategy
Growth outpaced expectations twice, so goals were reset and a simple model showed far more funds were needed for engineering, marketing and sales hires — which triggered each raise
Scope: describes own practice rather than a universal prescription
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Nico Wittenborn · May 22, 2023
These companies should only raise follow-on capital when the next chapter of acceleration is genuinely visible, and founders should avoid raising too much at too high a valuation too soon
Raising too much too early closes options; he'd rather keep options open than chase high valuations, and he wants everybody to win
Scope: a point of mismatch with multistage funds
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Christian Lanng · Sep 27, 2023
Optimising for high valuations is a classic trap; he regrets it and would have taken lower valuations rather than fight to catch up to inflated numbers
Tradeshift raised at $100M on the A, $140M on the B and $350M on the C 14 years ago; when real SaaS metrics emerged and the market normalised they had to catch up to those numbers and resort to creative structuring to avoid a down round
Scope: stated as his own regret in hindsight
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Jamin Ball · Jan 10, 2024
Founders should not let their cap table become a risk to the business: raise smaller amounts more frequently at milestone-based valuations you feel confident of clearing in eighteen months
Building the old-fashioned way means each round is underwritten against milestones you can actually hit
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Mike Maples · Jan 6, 2025
People have forgotten what a seed round is: the ideal seed round provides slightly more than the minimum viable money and time to take out the single biggest risk in the business, namely proving a nonconsensus insight is right
Seed is the riskiest time in the company and the most expensive capital because dilution is highest then; proving the insight is the most value-additive thing a founder can do and unlocks raising at will at much higher prices
Scope: implicitly criticizes $4–5M seed rounds as oversized
58:59 20VC: How To Do a 10x Seed Fund in 2025 | Three Frameworks to Evaluate Startups an Founders | Lessons from Losing Billions Missing Airbnb and Pinterest & Investing Lessons from Charlie Munger with Mike Maples @ Floodgate
Johannes Reck · Jun 23, 2025 · hedged
He should not have raised as large a Series A as he did; it cost too much dilution
Looking back the round meant too much dilution
Scope: retrospective judgment on his own Series A
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Johannes Reck · Jun 23, 2025
He would not have raised as large a Series A; founders should actively manage dilution rather than take the biggest round available
Excessive early dilution creates later problems with employee equity, other investors, and an oversized early-stage investor share
Scope: in his own case it ultimately did not matter because founder re-ups fixed it over a long tenure
29:08 20VC: The Wild Story Raising $450M From Masa and Softbank | Why My Biggest Mistakes Came From Listening to VCs | Why 100 VCs Turned Us Down | Why European Founders Are Tougher Than US Founders with Johannes Reck, GetYourGuide
Max Junestrand · Aug 15, 2025
The right amount to raise is however much you need to reach the next stage or profitability, chosen so as to minimise dilution against a set threshold
He set himself a target of diluting less than 20%, and works backwards from the capital needed to reach the next milestone
Scope: threshold is founder-specific (20% for him, 25% for others)
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Clay Bavor · Jul 4, 2026
Fundraising should be framed as raising the capital needed to reach the next clear milestone rather than as maximizing valuation.
They think milestone-to-milestone about what capital gets them to an unequivocally higher watermark in revenue and company scale, balancing that against dilution sensitivity.
Scope: sensitive but not maximally so to dilution; in their case rounds were inbound
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Take the extra money dilution is trivial next to failure risk
Christian Lanng · Sep 27, 2023
Raising more capital at a high valuation is justified when you're building something genuinely unprecedented, because more capital buys more shots on goal and more iterations
Nobody had built a global network for trade before, they had no clear idea how to do it, so more capital meant more attempts
Scope: scoped to companies attempting something never done before; says both he and Parker Conrad are partly right
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Daniel Khachab · Oct 28, 2024
Founders should take the cash when it is offered, unless they have personal wealth to fall back on
More cash increases the probability of achieving your mission, and every decision should be made to increase that probability
Scope: he regrets other elements of raising at a $1.1B price
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Raaz Herzberg · Dec 12, 2025
Founders should be generous with equity to employees and investors rather than optimizing ownership percentage, because a small share of a very large outcome beats a large share of nothing
Assaf Rappaport's approach: either the company becomes very big, in which case a small slice is huge, or it doesn't, in which case the percentage was irrelevant
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Alan Chang · Jan 5, 2026 · hedged
If you are able to raise a large round, you should — even though you don't need one to get started
Scope: conditional on being able to raise
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Josh Browder · May 18, 2026
Early-stage founders' dilution sensitivity is misguided; they should take extra money if it meaningfully reduces the chance of failure
Outcomes are binary — success means hundreds of millions and life change, failure means nothing — so the expected value of even a 5% reduction in failure risk is effectively infinite
Scope: excludes obviously bad deals like selling 50% of the company for $100k to an angel; aimed at young/early founders
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Arvind Jain · Jul 11, 2026
Founders should raise as large a round as they can from the outset
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Raising too much at too high a price costs founders optionality
Harry Stebbings · Oct 27, 2023
Jumbo rounds put founders in a worse position than smaller rounds, because if progress is slower than expected you cannot repeat a $10M on $50M, whereas a $3M on $15M can easily be followed by $7M on $45M
Customers don't convert and markets don't move as fast as projected, and a high entry price removes the option of a reasonable follow-on
Scope: projected out twelve to eighteen months
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Ed Sim · Jan 10, 2024
Small-revenue companies can still produce genuinely valuable exits, and founders should avoid raising too much cash because it limits their ability to exit at those prices
Palo Alto bought companies with $2-3M of ARR for $200-400M when they had a needed product and were ahead of the curve, even if weak at sales and marketing; too much capital raised closes off that outcome
Scope: requires a needed product and being ahead of the curve
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Trae Stephens · Apr 3, 2024
Founders get caught up in the moment and wrongly believe the only things that matter are up-and-to-the-right valuations and minimizing dilution, when they could simply take less at a lower price
Illustrated by the Silicon Valley scene where a founder who lost his company realizes he could have taken less money at a lower price
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Tom Blomfield · May 13, 2024 · hedged
Founders were getting over-diluted at seed, giving away 25-30% of the company, and keeping dilution somewhat lower is probably better for them
Scope: caveat that YC's advice is customized per company, not a blanket rule; some founders have taken this too far and will only give away 8-10%
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Mike Maples · Jan 6, 2025
Founders raising $4M seed rounds simply because that's what it takes to sell 20% is a bad way to start, and it hurts founders more than VCs
Without a clear line of sight to validating the insight, founders spend three years doing a bunch of stuff, hire people and do seed extensions; the one thing a founder never gets back is time, so if the insight is wrong you're far better off learning that within a year
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Bucky Moore · May 5, 2025
Founders who raise too much money at too high a price lose valuable optionality, and keeping dollars in and last-round post-money as low as possible is often very beneficial
He has been in multiple situations where companies later concluded they raised too much at too high a price and found their flexibility limited in both downside and upside scenarios
Scope: some companies and types of founders are genuinely better off maximizing dollars raised at efficient dilution; ultimately the founder's choice
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Founders claiming theyll bank unneeded capital never actually do so
Harry Stebbings · Oct 27, 2023
The 'extra money buys runway' argument only holds if the founder leaves the cash untouched, which almost never happens
Once the money is there, founders find reasons to spend it on stretch hires, new geographies and new products
14:58 20VC: The Three Types of Seed Round Today, Why Seed Has Never Been More Competitive, Why Pricing Has Never Been Higher, Why Boards at Pre-Seed Can Be Helpful & How Too Much Cash Too Soon Can Harm Companies with Ed Sim, Founder @ Boldstart
Harry Stebbings · Nov 15, 2023
Very few founders are disciplined enough to raise a large round and leave it in the bank, because product expansion, new geographies and incremental hires always present themselves.
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Harry Stebbings · Mar 18, 2024
Founders always spend excess capital rather than saving it — every great founder pulls forward a new product or hires a new data or sales team simply because they can
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Harry Stebbings · Apr 8, 2024
The advice to raise all you can and park a rainy-day fund fails in practice because founders spend rainy-day funds when it isn't raining
Observed founder behaviour with excess capital
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Harry Stebbings · May 8, 2024
Founders who say they will just raise the money and leave it in the bank never actually do; no one is unaffected by suddenly having $30M
He has never observed the money sitting untouched in practice
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Premature scaling not absolute capital raised determines failure
Frank Rotman · Aug 11, 2023
Inserting large amounts of capital into a company before it has cracked the code almost de facto ruins returns — the defining sloppiness of the late super cycle.
His firm's 20x and 100x outcomes were businesses that de-risked on very limited capital; late-cycle companies absorbed lots of money while producing little de-risking knowledge.
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Miles Grimshaw · Sep 18, 2023
Raising too much money too soon is a real risk; investment pace should be driven by hiring and the initiatives you want to pursue, not by capital availability
At LangChain the bottleneck has been hiring great people and choosing initiatives, not capital
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Tom Hulme · May 8, 2024
The absolute amount of money raised doesn't determine success or failure; what matters is whether it funds premature scaling
Money spent on premature scaling raises costs, and higher costs make a company less adaptable and slow its clock speed, which makes iterating to product-market fit harder
Scope: applies to startups still searching for product-market fit
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Tom Hulme · May 8, 2024
Daniel Dines was right to stay unfunded for years and only add capital at the market inflection point; putting $10M in at $50k ARR would have killed the company
Waiting for the market to develop meant capital was added as fuel to an existing fire rather than funding premature scaling
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Raise as insurance against a market downturn
Ryan Petersen · Nov 13, 2023
Raising very large rounds at what felt like the peak of the bull market was Flexport's best capital allocation decision because a fortress balance sheet lets you keep executing through a downturn
With a billion in cash they can execute without being overly concerned about the freight recession and the drop in tech capital markets
Scope: you can't predict market peaks; the 2019 raise was early and the market continued
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Eléonore Crespo · May 9, 2025
Raising large rounds well ahead of need is the right call — a company should always be sitting on cash from prior rounds.
You never know what tomorrow looks like, and having cash lets you keep innovating rather than being trapped in a difficult position two years out.
Scope: their rounds were preempted rather than sought; credits her co-founder's paranoia for the discipline
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Johannes Reck · Jun 23, 2025
Raising the roughly $450M from SoftBank and Temasek was the right decision and is what made GetYourGuide what it is today
COVID hit six months later and the company would have gone bankrupt without that capital
Scope: part of the round was secondary, buying out earlier shareholders
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Paul Erlanger · Jun 27, 2026
A company built on financial markets should raise venture capital primarily as downside protection against a sudden market turn, not because it needs the money
Robinhood and Coinbase show how volatile market-linked businesses are; with a five-to-ten-year horizon, a market turn could wipe out a company that just found product-market fit
Scope: initially planned to avoid VC entirely and only do an angel round
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Excess cash increases distraction and reduces capital efficiency without speeding execution
Ed Sim · Oct 27, 2023
Raising more than needed for psychological comfort ultimately hurts founders
Founders say a bigger round gives them three years of runway and peace of mind, but that comfort works against them
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Harry Stebbings · May 8, 2024
The biggest way aggressive investors damage companies is by pushing far more cash in than the business needs, which pulls the company off its strategy and diverts focus
He has a ~$4M ARR portfolio company offered a $40M term sheet, which immediately tempted them into a US expansion that is misaligned with their strategy and goal
Scope: framed as 'almost' the biggest way, alongside deal structure
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Harry Stebbings · Oct 28, 2024
Raising more cash than needed is harmful: it increases distractions and reduces capital efficiency, and the extra runway does not increase execution speed
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Out raise competitors in large markets while staying disciplined
Harry Stebbings · Nov 11, 2022
Founders have no real choice but to accept oversized term sheets, because if they refuse, competitors will take the money and outspend them on every channel
Capital availability forces the dynamic regardless of founder preference
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Johannes Reck · Jun 23, 2025
If you have traction in a big market where heavy competition is coming, you should raise aggressively and out-raise competitors while keeping spending discipline and focus
You have to do both at once: out-raise the competition but stay nimble and focused on core customer segments and core value proposition rather than overspending internally
Scope: conditional on traction, large market opportunity and expected competition; not applicable to the earliest stage
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Capital intensive balance sheet vision justifies maximal fundraising regardless of dilution
Michael Eisenberg · Dec 6, 2021
Large rounds are justified when the business is disrupting a big industry where customers demand a large balance sheet — financial services, freight, banking, payments.
Customers handing over money and payments want assurance you'll still be around, so a large balance sheet is a precondition for winning them, which drives founders to raise big rounds.
Scope: specific to balance-sheet-dependent categories, not typical software
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Jack Zhang · May 27, 2025
Dilution was not worth worrying about because building a global bank requires enormous balance-sheet capital, so raising as much as possible was correct
The vision is very capital intensive and sits on the balance sheet, so maximising capital raised mattered more than ownership
Scope: specific to a capital-intensive banking vision
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Hardware working capital makes bootstrapping impossible
Sanjit Biswas · Dec 8, 2023
Ramen-profitable bootstrapping isn't scalable for a hardware company because you need working capital to manufacture product and must pay real salaries to hire beyond founders
Hardware requires cash upfront for manufacturing, and hires need far more than grad students were willing to live on
Scope: specific to hardware businesses
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Harry Stebbings · Aug 8, 2026
Building photonics or energy companies is dramatically more capital intensive than prior technology waves, so founders need more money
The capital intensity of these hardware and energy categories exceeds earlier software-era startups
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Capital raised statistically correlates with startup success so raise more despite dilution
Hussein Kanji · Jan 20, 2025
There is a correlation between how much capital a company raises and its probability of success, with roughly $300M being the average needed to reach unicorn status.
Scope: $300M is an average, not a threshold
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Hussein Kanji · Jan 20, 2025
There is a statistical correlation between how much capital a company raises and its probability of success, so contrarian investors must ensure their companies get properly capitalized
Data shows a $100k seed round has a tiny chance of producing an outlier while the odds roughly double between a $5M and a $10M seed; reaching unicorn status takes around $300M on average
Scope: some companies get there on ~$200M
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Ai capital intensity inflates seeds and raises the entry barrier
Ed Sim · Oct 27, 2023
Founders in AI compute genuinely need to raise large amounts of capital, so their big rounds are justified
The compute requirements demand it, though he isn't playing in that game himself
Scope: AI compute specifically; he doesn't invest in that segment
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Lucas Swisher · Feb 23, 2026
AI-era businesses are more capital intensive to start than SaaS-era businesses, which inflates seed rounds but may make the companies more durable at scale
Higher capital requirements make companies harder to start and take more capital, which also raises the barrier for the next entrant
Scope: contrast drawn against the SaaS world where little capital was needed
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Capital efficiency relative to outcome size matters not round size
Dominik Richter · Dec 1, 2023
Relative to HelloFresh's ambition, revenue growth and category, the roughly $300M raised pre-IPO was not an insane amount of capital.
Cumulative cash burn was about $300M before generating cash flow, breakeven came about three years post-IPO, and since then the company has returned cash to shareholders, invested and done M&A.
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Taavet Hinrikus · Apr 28, 2025
Founders treating large fundraises as the ultimate measure of success is nonsense; what matters is how little capital is deployed relative to the size of the outcome
Wise raised only $160M of primary capital and burned about $100M to build over $10B of value, versus companies that raise $2.5B to create $10B
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Enterprise selling requires deep pockets so raise a large seed
Victor Riparbelli · Jan 15, 2025
You cannot build a $50–100B company by bootstrapping all the way; the bootstrapping ideal is a myth
Building things like a great go-to-market team requires capital up front — you hire expensive people who take ~nine months to ramp before the investment pays off — so you need a healthy balance sheet to chase big opportunities
Scope: applies to ambitions of building a very large company
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Raaz Herzberg · Dec 12, 2025 · hedged
It is very hard to build a successful enterprise company without raising a large seed round
Enterprise selling requires deep pockets to be a real partner to executives with hard jobs and many vendor options, and to absorb short-term costs for the customer
Scope: based on her gut and experience; concedes it's possible without one
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Raise to pull forward planned bets not just need
Markus Villig · Nov 13, 2024
Bolt needed to raise the large round even though it was profitable enough not to need it, because winning the category long term required the capital
If they could deploy the new money even nearly as efficiently as prior money, they could quadruple the business quickly, which was necessary for long-term category success
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Mati Staniszewski · Sep 8, 2025
The right reason to raise is to pull planned bets forward, and a round at 30x current revenue was a good price
The capital let them spend on models and multimodal expansion, expand internationally, and build true enterprise functionality (reliability, Salesforce/ServiceNow integrations, SIP trunking) for the agentic platform
Scope: referring to their October 2024 round at ~$80M revenue
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Dilution has normalized upward and guts exit proceeds
Matt Murphy · Jul 27, 2026
Heavy capital raising and the resulting dilution is now normal across the whole AI stack, including application companies, not just frontier model companies
Companies are growing faster and want capital to play offense; there's also a signaling dynamic where raising every few months reassures employees, plus more secondary is needed to retain talent against the labs
Scope: companies that avoid raising a lot are rare
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Harry Stebbings · Aug 8, 2026
Founders and investors are experiencing a normalization of extreme dilution, worse today than ever before, so exit proceeds disappoint relative to headline numbers
At exit you look at the number that comes back and wonder where it went
48:35 20VC: The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses | Why Founders Should Never Take Multi-Stage Money at Seed | Why Triple, Triple, Double, Double is Good Enough
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Alex Bouaziz · Oct 22, 2025
Even though Deel had been profitable for three years and did not need investment, bringing in fresh capital and resetting the valuation was worth doing because it is important to the actual value of the company
13 acquisitions helped Deel grow fast, build new products and bring in founders, so the actual value of the company matters
6:39 Raise even without need to reset valuation and reflect actual value
Harry Stebbings · Oct 16, 2024
A founder's job is to raise money at the highest price and dilute as little as possible.
30:29 Founders job is to maximize price and minimize dilution
Zach Perret · Oct 16, 2024
Founders should not simply raise at maximum valuation and let investors fend for themselves; they should feel a deep responsibility for every investor making money, which sets a high bar for the company's performance.
Raising at a high price creates a hurdle rate you then owe your investors; he wants everyone who invested in Plaid to make a lot of money.
30:34 Founders owe responsibility to ensure investors profit not just maximize price
Alan Chang · Jan 5, 2026
Founders don't need a lot of capital or a huge seed round to get started
Fuse assembled everything needed for a full-stack energy MVP on about $1M — a wind turbine for £750k, a license for £75k, the former Ofgem CEO as an equity-only advisor, and a co-founder who qualified as trader and electrician
41:31 A small first round suffices even in capital heavy sectors
Gili Raanan · Mar 18, 2024
Enterprise software and cybersecurity startups need at least $5-6M at seed, so a $7M seed round is reasonable rather than excessive
That is what it takes to assemble a team, build the product, and stand up a small go-to-market motion that wins the first few deals and reaches paying reference customers before Series A
39:44 Enterprise and cybersecurity startups need 5 7m at seed to reach series a readiness
Gili Raanan · Mar 18, 2024
Building a substantial company is inherently expensive, which means valuations should be high so founders can raise the cash they need without taking 50% dilution
He has found no cheap way to build a large company, so companies must raise a lot and high valuations are the mechanism that makes that non-punitive for founders
42:46 High valuations let founders raise necessary capital without punitive dilution
Ed Sim · Oct 27, 2023
Collapsing the seed and seed-plus into a single larger round to buy three years of runway can be the right call when the timing of the market's takeoff is unknowable.
Ian Swanson raised $10M for AI security before the market was hot precisely because he couldn't know when it would be, and it worked — he closed a $40M round with customers signed up.
9:38 Collapsing multiple planned rounds into one larger raise is justified when market timing is unknowable
Mike Maples · Jan 6, 2025
Most of the companies cited as examples of long iteration — Klaviyo, UiPath, ServiceTitan — did not raise a lot of money before finding market fit
61:10 Cited long iteration companies actually raised little before finding fit
Harry Stebbings · Sep 27, 2023
Startups today should need less capital than ever, not more, so rising fundraising sizes for lightweight SaaS tools are hard to justify
Open source, insane and cheap tooling, and product-led growth have lowered the cost of building
46:16 Cheaper tooling means raise less not more
Brendan Foody · Sep 15, 2025
Another few hundred million in cash would not meaningfully change how Mercor invests, though a fortress balance sheet has benefits
They are already investing as aggressively as possible while remaining profitable without trying to be
31:58 Surplus cash beyond needs changes little except balance sheet strength
Nikhil Basu Trivedi · Sep 6, 2023 · hedged
Whether a founder should take the smaller round depends on the firm, the partner, and the capital match to the business — some companies genuinely need more capital early — but on balance he is biased toward stage specialists
His own firm is a stage specialist that only leads early-stage rounds, which biases him
14:41 Fit between capital amount and business need depends on firm partner and company specifics
Immad Akhund · May 12, 2025
If you're getting a very high valuation, the mistake is raising too little money against it — you should raise enough at that price.
Raising a small amount at a billion-dollar valuation leaves you needing to raise again into that price; raising enough means you may never need to raise again or can spend into aggressive growth.
13:14 Raise enough money to match a high valuation not a token amount
Max Junestrand · Aug 15, 2025
You would much rather own a small portion of something that becomes very large than a large portion of something small
The size of the ultimate outcome dominates the ownership percentage, especially given how large the legal software opportunity is relative to the services market
61:33 Rather own a small piece of a huge outcome than a large piece of a small one
Harry Stebbings · May 19, 2025
Rounds where a company raises ~$100M at a ~$2B price are good rounds to do, because the dilution is small relative to the amount of capital brought in.
$100M is a lot of financing to bring into a company, but only diluting ~5% for it is a small price.
66:06 Small dilution for large capital makes the round attractive
Harry Stebbings · Jul 11, 2026
A $2M seed round is no longer viable for building a team, because engineer salaries of $300-500k mean a founder needs roughly $6M to hire four people
Compensation for great developers has risen so much that small seed rounds cannot fund even a handful of hires
37:17 Engineer salary inflation forces bigger seed rounds
Tom Blomfield · May 13, 2024
YC does not have a 10% dilution rule; the ~10% figure is just an arithmetic byproduct of raising $1.5-2M at the $15-20M Demo Day valuations, and founders should absolutely consider 15-20% dilution for a great partner
Founders can reach their Series A milestones on $1.5-2M while retaining control, but top-tier or specialist funds asking for more ownership are worth taking, as evidenced by Sequoia, Andreessen, Accel, Founders Fund and GV leading rounds in the last batch
32:54 Worth accepting higher dilution for a top tier or specialist investor
Bucky Moore · May 5, 2025
Companies replacing something that already exists can responsibly raise big rounds because their market headroom is knowable, while companies creating a new market should stay lean and preserve optionality
If you have a poor understanding of your market and there's a non-zero chance it's very constrained, optionality is your friend; the cases where founders got fundraising wrong were when they didn't yet understand their market
24:41 Known replacement markets justify big raises new markets favor staying lean
Bucky Moore · May 5, 2025
Two or three extra years of runway can be punitive for a great founder because it traps them in a company that is only sort of working, at high opportunity cost to their time
Great founders' time is precious; raising too much money means you can be stuck with a mediocre outcome for years, and there are countless talented founders in that position today
25:49 Excess runway traps great founders in mediocre companies at high opportunity cost
TJ Parker · Jun 5, 2023
Founders shouldn't agonize over dilution on any single round — across rounds pricing averages out and regretting it is silly
One round may be underpriced and the next too frothy, but in aggregate it was fine; they raised, moved on, and the outcome worked out great
36:29 Dont agonize over single round pricing since it averages out across rounds
David Frankel · Aug 8, 2026
Dilution is driven by speed and capital intensity, not a universal trend: fast-momentum companies like Suno dilute remarkably little because the pre-money goes through the roof, while hardware companies like Whoop take longer and raise far more
Comparing two portfolio companies' journeys
48:56 Dilution depends on momentum and capital intensity
Bastian Lehmann · Apr 8, 2024
When a market hits an inflection point where the only differentiator left is capital for advertising and market-share grabbing, that is the moment a company should raise a lot of money
On-demand delivery became the largest consumer battleground for five to six years with billions deployed into marketing, so capital directly determined share
11:35 Raise heavily when capital becomes the sole competitive differentiator
Bastian Lehmann · Apr 8, 2024
No amount of funding dictates a startup outcome — if you raise little you worry you should have raised more, if you raise a lot you worry about complacency, so worrying about the raise size is not productive
There is no set of circumstances that necessarily dictates the outcome; the anxiety exists in either direction until you know the company works
26:00 No fixed capital raise amount dictates startup outcome worrying is unproductive
Frank Rotman · Aug 11, 2023
Standard dilution advice is nonsense because it reduces valuation to a division exercise — this much money raised, therefore the company is worth this much.
15:37 Standard dilution guidance wrongly reduces valuation to a mechanical division exercise
Sam Lessin · Aug 11, 2023
Owning 80% of a business with $50M of top line is a much better life than owning 10% of a business doing $500M with a lot of VCs in it, and a generation of founders will start optimizing for that
His friends who wholly own or barely funded their businesses are happier, far richer, and hold more option value than those who own 10% of hot companies and are locked into big corporate structures; running a billion-dollar penny-stock public company with too much capital in it is a pretty bad job
27:28 Owning a large stake in a modest business beats a small stake in a huge vc backed one
Jason Lemkin · Aug 11, 2023 · hedged
The fallacy of the lifestyle-style business in SaaS is that undercapitalized companies fall behind competitively after a phase transition, roughly past $5–10M of revenue
Venture is not magical but past a certain scale you cannot become Atlassian or Qualtrics without capital; a $20M payroll company that raised nothing cannot compete with Rippling and Gusto
28:55 Undercapitalized saas companies fall behind competitively past a scale threshold
Bret Taylor · Oct 2, 2024
Raising outside capital is worth it even when unnecessary, because boards and investors create accountability, signal to employees that the founders are building a generational company rather than a side hustle, and provide strategic advice.
Having served as both board member and executive, he genuinely values the strategic advice he received in those settings.
60:04 Raise unneeded capital for board accountability employee signal and strategic advice
Varun Mohan · Jun 2, 2025
Raising a lot of capital early does give a startup more shots on goal, but it only pays off if the company is genuinely willing and able to pivot quickly.
Having cash in the bank gave them the confidence to pivot and to launch Codeium entirely free without worrying about monetization details.
12:29 Capital buys more shots on goal but only pays off with fast pivoting
David Frankel · Oct 14, 2024
AI startups can still reach product-market fit capital-efficiently; it is only scaling and distribution that require enormous capital
Their approach is teams versus themes — the team still has to find PMF, and that phase hasn't gotten more expensive
47:18 Pmf phase remains capital efficient only scaling requires massive capital
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