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Is it acceptable for employees to treat their work as 'just a job' rather than matching the founder's level of obsession?

4 recorded positions from 4 people, first said Nov 20, 2023. They do not agree — the readings below are what each one actually argued.

Hire only people for whom the company is their single top priority

Harry Stebbings · Nov 20, 2023

Some people genuinely don't care about being proud of their job and just want to tick the box — and those people should be exited fast once hired

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Keith Rabois · Nov 27, 2023

You should hire only people for whom building this once-in-a-generation company is their single top priority, rather than people splitting attention across other pursuits

People can pursue other things later in their careers and will look back having learned a lot from giving their all to one thing

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Also on the record

Matteo Franceschetti · Nov 20, 2023

Every person deserves to fulfil their full potential, and someone who doesn't want to is not the right fit for the company

Everyone goes home to a partner or family and wants to be proud of what they do rather than doing basic repetitive things; if you let them coast they will leave anyway

70:32 Employees who dont want to fulfil their potential arent the right fit

Fabien Pinckaers · Feb 12, 2025

It is fine and normal for employees to treat the company as just a job rather than being obsessed like the founder

They don't own 56% of the company, so their relationship to it is legitimately different

65:55 Employees treating work as just a job is legitimate unlike founders

Your assistant can query this graph directly — 4 positions here, 19,646 across the corpus. Add 996.fm over MCP.