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What most holds back Europe's startup ecosystem from global competitiveness?

179 recorded positions from 54 people, first said Mar 8, 2021. They do not agree — the readings below are what each one actually argued.

Bureaucratic regulation is the binding constraint

Harry Stebbings · Nov 28, 2022

European regulation can stay irrational longer than a company can stay solvent, making it a serious obstacle to building businesses there

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Richard Socher · Apr 18, 2025

The EU has shot itself in the foot with its regulation, and AI regulation in particular has destroyed a fledgling ecosystem that could never get off the ground

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Kieran Flanagan · Jul 11, 2025

The EU's regulatory stance on AI is self-defeating and is pushing founders who want to build in Europe toward the US

EU rules delay access to frontier tools — he's only getting Veo 3 three months after release — and AI-enabled knowledge workers have such a distinct advantage that founders fear being slowed down relative to US competitors

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Andrew Ng · Nov 17, 2025

Being a leader in regulating AI is not a competitive advantage for Europe; Europe should stop over-regulating and focus on investing and building

It's still early in AI, Europe has plenty of smart people, and regulation prevents people who want to work hard from doing so

Scope: framed as his one wish for European regulators

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Alan Chang · Jan 5, 2026

UK energy costs are high primarily because of overregulation that makes physical construction almost impossible, not because of a shortage of capital

Councils have full discretion over planning and environmental impact — Fuse had to run multi-winter bird surveys before being allowed to build a power plant — while infra capital providers are eager to deploy capital

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Josh Browder · May 18, 2026

The single change that would make Europe globally competitive is eliminating its bureaucratic regulations, including notary requirements and VAT on investments

He abandoned an investment in a German company because of notary bureaucracy despite being an expert in bureaucracy, and charging a sales tax on investments makes no sense

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Andrew Feldman · May 26, 2026

Europe should be worried, because a 'be afraid of it, regulate it, tax it' mentality has emerged that works against entrepreneurship across a range of technologies, not just AI

The leading AI, chip and software companies are overwhelmingly not European, and given Europe's population the opportunity to innovate is sitting unexercised

Scope: not true across the board — pockets in Cambridge, London and Stockholm are exceptions; SAP cited as a counterexample

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Fred Turner · Jul 18, 2026

Europe should attach a cost or penalty to passing new regulation — for example an additional tax on the country that passes it — because purely additive regulation without iteration is harmful

Right now passing regulation is treated as the goal and success in itself; there's no incentive to examine how existing regulation affects things on the ground or to refine it

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Harry Stebbings · Aug 8, 2026

China's near-absence of policy and regulation lets companies build and deploy far faster, with Europe the worst offender on the other end

Regulatory burden directly slows build-and-deploy speed

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Capital abundance not scarcity is the real europe problem

Daniel Khachab · Oct 28, 2024

The complaint that Europe lacks capital is no longer a valid excuse for founders, because US and UK funds will happily invest in Germany if you are growing fast enough and are a plane ride away.

When Choco started in 2018 you genuinely could not raise €20m in Germany, but there have always been five daily flights to London and two to JFK, and foreign funds invest in fast-growing German companies; founders should get on the plane rather than hide behind the lack of domestic capital.

Scope: concedes domestic German capital was genuinely absent in 2018

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Harry Stebbings · Oct 28, 2024

Europe now has enough domestic capital, and in fact has too much money chasing too few good entrepreneurs.

There are a large number of funds in Europe — too many — plus the globalisation of capital, so funding is not the constraint.

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Harry Stebbings · Nov 13, 2024

There is far too much venture money in Europe relative to the number of good opportunities, which concentrates capital into the few obviously good companies at inflated prices, and the number of mediocre-to-poor large European funds is enormous

Excess capital relative to opportunity set forces concentration and drives prices up

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Harry Stebbings · Nov 27, 2024 · hedged

Europe is not under-financing innovation; there are dramatically too few good companies for the amount of capital available, which drives exorbitant deal prices

Deal cycles, deal pricing and deal quality all indicate an excess of capital relative to quality companies

Scope: invites correction — 'am I wrong?'

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Harry Stebbings · Jun 23, 2025

There is way too much money in European venture, not too little

There is so much capital that VCs email GetYourGuide execs encouraging them to leave and start companies, spawning rumours those execs are departing

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Harry Stebbings · Aug 18, 2025

Access to capital is not a genuine problem in Europe, and Lovable spinouts will get term sheets immediately

There is so much money in Europe now that capital is not the bottleneck, and anyone leaving Lovable will be funded straight away

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Market fragmentation into small national markets is the core disadvantage

Steeve Morin · Feb 24, 2025

European AI regulation is not something to fear — build a successful company first and the politics will follow

If you're successful, everything flows from there

Scope: concedes gigawatt-datacenter builders like Mistral do run into these problems

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Taavet Hinrikus · Apr 28, 2025

Regulation is an excuse rather than a real barrier to European entrepreneurship, though Europe still needs to become a far more unified market for labour and capital

No entrepreneur has ever failed to start a company because of regulation; the best ones go through walls made of titanium

Scope: holds both sides: excuse for founders, but market fragmentation is still a genuine problem; cites duplicated national stock exchanges as an example of unnecessary fragmentation

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Harry Stebbings · Apr 28, 2025

Europe's national stock exchanges are all subpar and subscale, and Europe should have a single exchange

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Philipp Freise · Jun 30, 2025

Europe needs a capital markets union, a European SEC and a single pan-European venue for going public

Artificial barriers between 27 nation states plus the UK on securitization and listing rules hold European capital markets back

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Martin Mignot · Aug 11, 2025

The EU should study Revolut's passporting advantage and build a genuinely unified market, and an initiative like EU Inc creating a single simple company status would be a game changer

A single unified status and simple way to expand across Europe would replicate the advantage that let Revolut scale

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Demis Hassabis · Apr 7, 2026 · hedged

Europe's fragmentation into smaller markets is a core disadvantage for building giant companies, and an 'EU Inc' style reform could be a good innovation to overcome it

Europe is a combination of smaller markets rather than one large one

Scope: 'maybe' on EU Inc

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Aggressive taxation of mobile wealth drives talent and investors out of the uk

Harry Stebbings · Oct 28, 2024

Europe's talent shortage is within its control to solve, and the UK government's increase in capital gains tax actively discourages entrepreneurs from building there.

Raising capital gains tax does not make entrepreneurs want to build a business in your country.

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Harry Stebbings · Apr 10, 2025

Tax policy is behaviourally variable — raise a given rate and people leave — and UK policymakers appear not to understand this.

Norway innovated on its tax system and saw the effect; since the removal of Non-Dom status he has friends telling him every single day that they are leaving.

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Tom Hulme · Apr 10, 2025

On pragmatic rather than principled grounds, removing Non-Dom status is a mistake — he would rather that talent stayed in the UK than that everyone paid identical tax.

He sees the brain drain: many people he knows well have left, and they were also excellent angel investors and employers. In principle everyone should pay equal tax, but the practical outcome matters more, and non-doms leaving is a leading indicator worth taking seriously.

Scope: principle would favour equal tax; he does see some movement back — e.g. a billionaire VC recently moving to the UK

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Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

The cumulative impulse of removing Non-Dom status, changing inheritance tax and capital gains rules, and taxing private schools is too much, and the UK is shooting itself in the foot.

These principled changes were made while assuming everyone would happily stay; but people arrive in the country with existing wealth and it can't be fully right to then seek to tax that, so there has to be provision that makes it possible for them to stay.

Scope: agrees with Tom that in principle everyone should pay the same tax; objects to the aggregate impulse rather than any single measure

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Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025 · hedged

Tax policy must balance the multiplier benefits of attracting wealthy foreigners against fairness for ordinary taxpayers, and the UK has currently swung too far toward penalising mobile wealth

The country needs a shared sense of mission; it's not right for full taxpayers to sit alongside people with privileged tax status, but making it impossible to stay hurts everyone

Scope: accepts trickle-down/multiplier effect exists; fairness must also be preserved

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Harry Stebbings · Apr 10, 2025

The Labour government's desire to pander to traditional left-wing policy is destroying a pragmatic approach to wealth creation and wealth sustenance.

The measures cited — inheritance tax, capital gains, private school fees — are bluntly pandering to traditional left-wing policy rather than pragmatism.

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Missing growth stage capital especially pension funds not startup formation

Arthur Mensch · Apr 29, 2024 · hedged

What Europe lacks is growth funds able to take huge bets with high conviction, and this should improve over time if European wealth is channelled into growth funds

His own fundraising showed European funds couldn't underwrite the size of bet required; the capital exists in Europe but isn't routed into growth funds

Scope: improvement conditional on channelling European wealth into growth funds

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Markus Villig · Nov 13, 2024

European venture funding was very bad ten years ago and is much better now, but still lags the US mainly because far less capital is available

US VC draws on a much deeper LP base — pension funds and university endowments — which largely doesn't invest in European venture

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Johannes Reck · Jun 23, 2025

Europe needs far bigger innovation budgets aimed at scaling companies and keeping them in Europe, which requires a lower cost of capital and higher growth-stage valuations

Lower cost of capital means higher valuations for growth companies and therefore more money for those companies to keep building in Europe

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Demis Hassabis · Apr 7, 2026

The key fix for European scale-ups is unlocking what pension funds can invest in at growth stage; Europe is good at startups but lacks the capital markets and ambition to fund billion dollar rounds

Crossing the chasm to a global trillion dollar player requires billion dollar rounds to take on incumbents, and that capital was missing when DeepMind was fundraising ten years ago and is still missing today

Scope: framed primarily for the UK, may apply to other European countries

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Harry Stebbings · Apr 14, 2026

Europe's capital shortfall for frontier technology is largely a lack of pension fund reform.

Scope: 'largely' — one cause among others

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Uk narrative of decline does not match lived founder experience talent and london dynamism are strong

Danny Rimer · Jun 17, 2024

Index's thesis that Brexit would push company formation from London to Berlin, Paris, Amsterdam and Stockholm was wrong; London has maintained essentially the same dynamism of entrepreneurialism as pre-Brexit

Observed reality contradicted their expectation, and they proactively corrected the geographic over-rotation

Scope: describes it as a shock to him

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Matt Clifford · Jul 1, 2024

London's pessimism is unwarranted given the assets within three miles: DeepMind as a top-three global AI lab with arguably the broadest research agenda, Wayve as probably the world's top private embodied AI company, Europe's best life sciences cluster, and ARIA as probably the world's most radical government R&D funding agency

The UK already knows how to build these institutions and just needs to believe in it; if ideas are what matter, DeepMind's breadth of research agenda puts it right at the top

Scope: notes he is biased on ARIA as its chair; 'probably'/'arguably' on several rankings

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Victor Riparbelli · Jan 15, 2025

The UK is actually a pretty good place to build a company, and its main deficit is a brand problem rather than substance

Coming from Denmark, where a company like Synthesia would have been impossible; SEIS/EIS, talent depth and an improving venture ecosystem are real assets

Scope: venture ecosystem still very PE-centric; explicitly disagrees with Harry; risk the new government damages it via over-taxation

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Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025 · hedged

The UK has genuinely world-class research talent and London is the best city this side of the Atlantic — arguably the best in the world — to build a company

Cambridge's research quality is as good as Stanford's, just smaller and less funded

Scope: "arguably" the best in the world

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Matt Pohlson · Jun 6, 2025

The UK is a great place to build a business and the narrative that the UK and Europe are sinking does not match lived experience

Great talent from strong educational institutions, people motivated by the collective, lots of immigrant talent and diverse ways of thinking, and London is uniquely dynamic — the only city with relevant centres of politics, entertainment and finance within a mile of each other

Scope: based on his own experience operating there; he came in without strong preconceptions

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Investor credentialism and downside focus not regulation

Hussein Kanji · Jan 20, 2025

European investors are largely trained in private equity thinking — minimize downside, pick legible metrics like vertical SaaS — which is why Europe does not produce power-law outcomes.

PE-trained investors reason 'I will worry about my downside and the upside will take care of itself', but venture is entirely about outliers

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Mati Staniszewski · Sep 8, 2025

US venture investors are playing a different game from European ones: they are far more willing to take risk and push founders to bet bigger rather than optimize against downside.

In their own fundraising conversations, US partners consistently framed discussions around how to bet bigger instead of protecting against negatives.

Scope: based on ElevenLabs' own experience so far

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Fred Turner · Jul 18, 2026

UK investors optimize to mitigate the worst downside and invest on credentials, while Silicon Valley investors optimize for the best possible outcome and ask how big the company could become

In the UK he was judged on being an undergrad rather than the opportunity; in the Valley the questions were about what the company could be in ten years

Scope: based on his experience over ten years ago; impressionistic

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Fred Turner · Jul 18, 2026

UK-based founders face a cold shoulder from investors compared with Silicon Valley, where investors will take a bet on an unproven young founder

Coming from a British background he couldn't even get meetings with investors, whereas in the YC batch Josh Buckley came by the lab and invested simply because he liked what they were doing

Scope: based on his own experience as a young founder

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Political unwillingness to implement the known prescription

Alan Chang · Jan 5, 2026

He is short-term bearish but long-term bullish on the UK

The current government is heading the wrong direction with talk of growth but no action and no deep deregulation; but many people he speaks to show common sense and will hopefully elect a more sensible government that does the right thing

Scope: long-term optimism depends on a future government being elected

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Harry Stebbings · Jan 5, 2026

Optimism about the UK electing a sensible government is unfounded because Reform under Nigel Farage looks likely to win and the average voter is not an intellectual

The UK populace is not represented by figures like Matt Clifford; the average person on the street is very different

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Marc Andreessen · Mar 30, 2026

European governments will never build a Silicon Valley because the prescription is already well known and they consistently refuse to do the things on it, always asking for an option B instead.

Over thirty years of meetings with heads of state and officials the conversation is identical: they want a Silicon Valley in location X, are told what to do, say they can't do those things, and ask for an alternative list; Mario Draghi's report from two years ago already documents everything, and none of it is being done.

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Marc Andreessen · Mar 30, 2026

European politicians privately know exactly what policies are needed but publicly half-pretend not to know; the constraint is courage, not intelligence

In private conversations they can articulate the full policy formula on any topic, then explain why they can't do it and go out in public feigning uncertainty — the policy debates have been had so many times that the answers are known, people just dislike the trade-offs

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Work ethic gap is a myth at least in professional services

Fabien Pinckaers · Feb 12, 2025

Young Europeans are willing to work hard, but only when given purpose and a sense of impact — the claim that they lack work ethic is wrong

Odoo built a 5,000-person company with millions of users at an average employee age of 26, which proves the capacity to work is there; the new generation differs from twenty years ago in needing purpose, not in willingness

Scope: acknowledges the new generation is different from previous ones

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Johannes Reck · Jun 23, 2025

The claim that European entrepreneurs are less hardworking or less ambitious than American ones is false; ambition levels are equivalent and European founders actually have a tougher time

It is much harder to raise funds and build a business across a fragmented Europe than in the US where funding and the addressable market are much bigger

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Mati Staniszewski · Sep 8, 2025

The claim that Europeans don't work as hard as Americans is wrong — you can find phenomenal people in Europe who work harder

When they hired some West Coast US people, their Central and Eastern European team members observed those hires didn't work as hard as they did; the European team are missionaries who work weekends and feel part of the company

Scope: framed as 'you can find' such people rather than all Europeans

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Winston Weinberg · Jan 19, 2026

The American trope that Europeans don't work as hard is not fair — at least in law, where lawyers work equally hard across the globe

Lawyers have billable hour targets and compete against international firms, so the work ethic is the same everywhere; UK lawyers in particular work insanely hard

Scope: based only on his exposure to the legal profession; he may not notice the effect because of his domain

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Global scale is achievable from europe despite widespread disbelief

Arthur Mensch · Apr 29, 2024

Europe has a real chance in AI because a revolution in how software is made opens opportunity for new actors, and Europe has the talent, the market and access to capital that crosses oceans

Every revolution creates room for new entrants; capital moves across borders freely and the local digital ecosystem, while smaller, exists and is growing

Scope: European market is more fragmented than the US; digital-native ecosystem is smaller; conditional on retaining talent rather than losing it to the US

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Klaus Hommels · Nov 27, 2024 · hedged

An ambitious entrepreneur can still build their company in Europe today

Being an entrepreneur isn't everything: you are also a human being with friends and family, and life is an equilibrium of parameters rather than a single one to optimize

Scope: framed as 'you still can'; argument rests on optimizing life overall, not company outcome alone

61:18 20VC: Why Price Sensitivity is BS | Why "Portfolios" are Merely a Construct to Make LPs Happy | Why the Best Investment Never Happen in "Fundraising Rounds" | What Europe Needs to do to Become a Superpower Again | Klaus Hommels, Lakestar

Mati Staniszewski · Sep 8, 2025

You can build a global-scale company from Europe, and most people still do not believe this

Scope: acknowledges Harry and parts of the ecosystem are helping shift the perception

64:49 20VC: ElevenLabs Hits $200M ARR: The Untold Story of Europe's Fastest Growing AI Startup | The Real Cost of AI from Talent to Data Centres | How US VCs are in a Different League to Europeans | The Future of Foundation Models with Mati Staniszewski

Self belief and optimism not structural barriers is the missing ingredient

Tom Blomfield · May 13, 2024

British culture's sarcastic instinct to trash ideas makes for great comedy but terrible startups; the boundless optimism startups need is Californian rather than natural to Britain

Startups require boundless energy and optimism, which pessimistic idea-trashing destroys

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Taavet Hinrikus · Apr 28, 2025

Europeans are not less ambitious than Americans, they are just too humble and worse at marketing themselves

Europeans don't brag about their outcomes the way Americans do

Scope: remedy suggested half-jokingly: hire American marketers

48:00 20VC: VCs are Spreadsheet Monkeys and are Commoditised | Why Fees and Carry Misalign GPs and LPs | Why Founders Will Realise Multi-Stage Funds Damage Seed Rounds | Why We Need European Sovereignty More Than Ever with Taavet Hinrikus

Johannes Reck · Jun 23, 2025 · hedged

Displaying optimism and believing in Europe, rather than just looking to the US, is the challenge for this generation

Without that displayed optimism and self-belief, nothing changes

13:51 20VC: The Wild Story Raising $450M From Masa and Softbank | Why My Biggest Mistakes Came From Listening to VCs | Why 100 VCs Turned Us Down | Why European Founders Are Tougher Than US Founders with Johannes Reck, GetYourGuide

Local gigawatt scale compute deficit is the gap

Daniel Khachab · Oct 28, 2024

As countries de-risk Taiwan, new GPU fabrication and the energy production to support it will be built in the US and the Middle East, not in Europe.

Close to 100% of GPUs are built in Taiwan today; the UAE is committing hundreds of billions and the White House urged the military to find real estate for such facilities, while he sees no comparable European investment in chips or energy production.

26:37 20VC: Why SaaS is Dead | Why AI First Companies Will Win | We are in the Middle of a Cold War for AI Talent | Why Europe is F******* and We Need to Stop Whining with Daniel Khachab, Co-Founder @ Choco

Jonathan Ross · Sep 29, 2025

If Europe fails to build energy at the required speed, its economy will become a tourist economy

You cannot compete in a new economy without the resource it's built on, and the new economy is AI built on compute

37:49 20VC: OpenAI and Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips | NVIDIA Will Be Worth $10TRN | How to Solve the Energy Required for AI... Nuclear | Why China is Behind the US in the Race for AGI with Jonathan Ross, Groq Founder

Anjney Midha · Apr 14, 2026 · hedged

For full compute sovereignty Europe needs roughly Google-level infrastructure — on the order of 12–15 gigawatts locally over the next four years.

Sizing top-down in gigawatts: Google runs roughly 12–15GW for internal and external deployed needs, so a continent with less than that cannot claim sovereignty.

Scope: author's own awareness of Google's figures; over a four-year horizon

30:13 20VC: Anj Midha on Investing $300M into Anthropic | The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Turned it Down | The Four Bottlenecks to Compute | What the China Has Smashed and Why We Should Be Worried

Adopt us style ai regulation or an opt in jurisdiction to fix europe

Harry Stebbings · Jun 30, 2025

A unified European liquidity mechanism would be good for Europe, and the EU AI Act is incredibly prohibitive

40:21 20VC: Inside KKR's Monster $8BN European Fund | The $500M Turkey Gamble That Went Wrong | Do Andreessen & General Catalyst Scare KKR? | Will AI Kill the PE Model? | Can The PE Model Survive without IPOs and Where is the Liquidity with Philip Freise

Philipp Freise · Jun 30, 2025

Europe has over-regulated AI and should unleash the technology rather than stifle it

Too much regulation stifles technological innovation, which Europe needs to harness

Scope: describes it as blunt speaking / an area of experimentation

40:30 20VC: Inside KKR's Monster $8BN European Fund | The $500M Turkey Gamble That Went Wrong | Do Andreessen & General Catalyst Scare KKR? | Will AI Kill the PE Model? | Can The PE Model Survive without IPOs and Where is the Liquidity with Philip Freise

Mati Staniszewski · Sep 8, 2025

Europe should copy US AI regulation directly, or create an opt-in jurisdiction within the EU that follows US-style AI law

Scope: acknowledges this would have a huge set of repercussions; opt-in state offered as the softer alternative

68:06 20VC: ElevenLabs Hits $200M ARR: The Untold Story of Europe's Fastest Growing AI Startup | The Real Cost of AI from Talent to Data Centres | How US VCs are in a Different League to Europeans | The Future of Foundation Models with Mati Staniszewski

Absence of visible peer success caps ambition

Harry Stebbings · Jul 1, 2024 · hedged

The difference between US and UK ecosystems is belief capital, not the compensation packages on offer from firms like Jane Street.

48:37 20VC: LLMs Are Reaching a Stage of Diminishing Returns: What is the Next S Curve | The Bull & Bear Case for China's Ability to Challenge the US' AI Capabilities | How AI Changes the Future of War & How Agents Will Reshape Society with Matt Clifford @ EF

Matt Clifford · Jul 1, 2024

In the UK, the richest peer a Cambridge computer science grad knows five years out is likely the one who went into trading, whereas that is not true in the Bay Area — and this is the thing that still needs to change.

Visible peer wealth from entrepreneurship is what redirects talented people toward founding companies.

48:53 20VC: LLMs Are Reaching a Stage of Diminishing Returns: What is the Next S Curve | The Bull & Bear Case for China's Ability to Challenge the US' AI Capabilities | How AI Changes the Future of War & How Agents Will Reshape Society with Matt Clifford @ EF

Harry Stebbings · Jun 1, 2026

Europe has been held back in many ways by the absence of the dispersion effect that comes from seeing your friends achieve big things

Seeing peers succeed raises ambition, and Europe lacks that feedback loop

Scope: 'in many ways'

59:15 20VC: Mercor CEO on Why Application Layer Companies Have No Defensibility, The Model is the Product | Token Spend Will Exceed Headcount Spend in 5 Years | The True Cost of Hiring AI Researchers in the Valley Today with Brendan Foody

Capital precedes and causes great companies not the reverse

Markus Villig · Nov 13, 2024

Capital availability is self-fulfilling: European companies get outcompeted by US rivals not because they are worse businesses but because they lack access to comparable funding

Has seen it play out repeatedly in food delivery, grocery delivery and transport, where US companies won on funding alone

Scope: at least in our industry

63:04 20VC: Bolt; The Most Insane Story in Startups | Turning a $5K Loan into an $8BN Company | Why Every VC Turned Down One of Europe's Biggest Winners | Competing with Uber & The Future of Micromobility and Self-Driving

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

The causality runs from capital to companies, not from a track record of companies to capital: put capital in place and great companies will rise to the occasion

China had almost nothing in technology twenty years ago, studied the US model, put huge amounts of capital in place, and is now the clear global number two in technology

Scope: acknowledges a chicken-and-egg framing but comes down on capital first

11:47 20VC: How to Fix the UK Tech Ecosystem | Why We Need to Flood the UK with Venture Capital | What the UK Can Learn From Sequoia, Stripe and Norway | Why Now is the Time to be Bullish on China & Lessons from Jensen Huang with Tom Hulme & Stan Boland

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

Increasing the amount of venture capital in Europe would itself raise the quality of European venture over time

Best founders will seek out the best VCs, those VCs will generate outsized returns and be able to raise more capital, ratcheting up performance

Scope: accepts Harry's point about poor founder experience as true

16:22 20VC: How to Fix the UK Tech Ecosystem | Why We Need to Flood the UK with Venture Capital | What the UK Can Learn From Sequoia, Stripe and Norway | Why Now is the Time to be Bullish on China & Lessons from Jensen Huang with Tom Hulme & Stan Boland

Founder supply not capital is the true binding constraint

Tom Hulme · Apr 10, 2025

The biggest rate limiter on the UK/European ecosystem is the supply of founders and especially world-class operators, not engineering talent

Founders will smash through walls and can build anywhere — Melanie Perkins built a $50B company in Perth — but every good founder needs five to ten world-class operators, and that is where the gap is

7:15 20VC: How to Fix the UK Tech Ecosystem | Why We Need to Flood the UK with Venture Capital | What the UK Can Learn From Sequoia, Stripe and Norway | Why Now is the Time to be Bullish on China & Lessons from Jensen Huang with Tom Hulme & Stan Boland

Harry Stebbings · Apr 10, 2025

The binding constraint on UK venture is not capital but entrepreneurs: there is simply not the supply of founders to deploy an extra ~£12bn while keeping the investment bar as high as it needs to be

As a day-to-day investor on the ground looking for companies and great people, he cannot find enough founders to justify deploying that additional capital at his bar

Scope: conditional on maintaining a high investment bar

10:38 20VC: How to Fix the UK Tech Ecosystem | Why We Need to Flood the UK with Venture Capital | What the UK Can Learn From Sequoia, Stripe and Norway | Why Now is the Time to be Bullish on China & Lessons from Jensen Huang with Tom Hulme & Stan Boland

Harry Stebbings · Apr 10, 2025

The UK does not need more venture money; the binding constraint is talent supply, and extra capital just concentrates into the few good founders and inflates prices beyond US levels

He sees rounds go from five on 35 to six on 80 when Lightspeed and General Catalyst come in, and liquidation preferences being removed, because there isn't enough supply of good companies

15:26 20VC: How to Fix the UK Tech Ecosystem | Why We Need to Flood the UK with Venture Capital | What the UK Can Learn From Sequoia, Stripe and Norway | Why Now is the Time to be Bullish on China & Lessons from Jensen Huang with Tom Hulme & Stan Boland

Celebrate entrepreneurs and publicly track national wealth creation

Tom Hulme · Apr 10, 2025

The UK under-celebrates entrepreneurs, and letting them tell the story of the wealth they give back — plus a Norway-style public wealth ticker — would make the public see the value being created.

Sequoia names its meeting rooms after its LPs as a reminder of who they serve; the Norwegian Sovereign Wealth Fund runs a literal stock ticker so citizens see national wealth in real time, and national happiness moves with it — both are mechanisms for reminding society that entrepreneurs are building in its service.

46:28 20VC: How to Fix the UK Tech Ecosystem | Why We Need to Flood the UK with Venture Capital | What the UK Can Learn From Sequoia, Stripe and Norway | Why Now is the Time to be Bullish on China & Lessons from Jensen Huang with Tom Hulme & Stan Boland

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

The UK should pair the £4 trillion national wealth goal with a public national ticker tracking progress toward it.

47:36 20VC: How to Fix the UK Tech Ecosystem | Why We Need to Flood the UK with Venture Capital | What the UK Can Learn From Sequoia, Stripe and Norway | Why Now is the Time to be Bullish on China & Lessons from Jensen Huang with Tom Hulme & Stan Boland

Tom Hulme · Apr 10, 2025 · hedged

A visible national wealth ticker would help glue culture and society together rather than leaving things framed as haves versus have-nots.

47:44 20VC: How to Fix the UK Tech Ecosystem | Why We Need to Flood the UK with Venture Capital | What the UK Can Learn From Sequoia, Stripe and Norway | Why Now is the Time to be Bullish on China & Lessons from Jensen Huang with Tom Hulme & Stan Boland

Government negativity and messaging damages uk attractiveness positive selling needed

Harry Stebbings · Jan 15, 2025

The Labour government's consistent negativity is damaging; they should be publicly selling London as open for business

Relentless negative messaging fails to sell the store

58:52 20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

Harry Stebbings · Jan 20, 2025

Persistent official messaging that the UK will have no growth actively deters great entrepreneurs from building there, so macro and company creation are correlated

You are not putting up a banner saying come build here

54:13 20VC: Why Large Seed Rounds Increase the Chances of Success | When to Sell in Venture | Why Multi-Stage Firms Do Not Do The Work | Is Europe Totally F****** and Why AI Means London Can Compete with the US with Hussein Kanji

Regulatory reform is underway only speed is in question

Alan Chang · Jan 5, 2026

Deregulation is achievable by the next UK government provided it has strong political will and attracts a top advisory team on which regulations to delete or reform

Deregulation requires primarily will rather than capability

Scope: conditional on the next government attracting the right team

26:17 20VC: $0-$260M in Revenue in Three Years: How We Did It | You Need to Work Weekends to Win — Most Founders Aren't Ambitious Enough | The Revolut Playbook: Speed, Urgency, Extreme Ownership, and Zero Excuses with Alan Chang @ Fuse Energy

KR Sridhar · Jun 29, 2026 · hedged

Europe is waking up faster than expected because of AI, and he is optimistic about the changes the EU and UK say they want to make — the open question is whether they can move fast enough.

Signals coming from both the EU and the UK about intended changes.

Scope: contingent on execution speed

53:30 20VC: Leo Aschenbrenner's Largest Holding: Inside the $90BN Bloom Energy | Why Electricity, Not AI Models, Will Decide the Winners of the AI Race | Why We Are Not in an AI Capex Bubble | Energy Sovereignty and The Future of Power with KR Sridhar

Startup ecosystems require generational time to compound explaining europes lag behind the us

Miki Kuusi · Nov 28, 2022

Europe's bigger constraint has been the absence of a startup ecosystem — founders supporting founders, experienced shareholders reinvesting, domestic and international funds, proof points — and that is now in place, so it just needs time to produce more and bigger outcomes

All the right ingredients are now in the pot; the scene needs time rather than new interventions

58:58 20VC: Wolt CEO, Miki Kuusi on Leadership Lessons Scaling to a Reported $8.1BN Exit to Doordash, Building Teams not Families, The Difference Between Trust and Safety Within Companies, How To Use Compensation to Create Culture & Why You Should Not Be Lookin

Arthur Mensch · Apr 29, 2024

Building a startup ecosystem takes an incompressible amount of time as layers of entrepreneurs and investors stack on each other, and Europe's twenty years versus the US's sixty or seventy explains the gap

Ecosystems compound generationally, and the willpower now visible in European founders staying home means Europe will eventually produce something interesting

Scope: also requires willpower, which Arthur says is now present

37:05 20VC: Mistral's Arthur Mensch: Are Foundation Models Commoditising | How Do We Solve the Problem of Compute | Is There Value in the Application Layer | Open vs Closed: Who Wins and Mistral's Position

Hard mode but with real compensating advantages

Anton Osika · Aug 18, 2025

Building a generational company from Europe is hard mode because the network of individuals and companies with context on every stage of scaling a multinational is thinner, and access to capital and fast distribution and brand help is weaker

Europe lacks the density of people and firms who have already built amazing multinational companies and who can quickly hand you distribution and brand

Scope: Some things are better in Europe too; Capital access is not currently a bottleneck for Lovable

45:39 20VC: Lovable CEO Anton Osika on $120M in ARR in 7 Months | The Honest Truth About Defensibility and Unit Economics for AI Startups | The State of Foundation Models: Long Grok, Short OpenAI, Why | Replit vs Lovable vs Bolt: What Happens

Mati Staniszewski · Sep 8, 2025

Building a startup in Europe is building on hard mode, though it also carries real advantages

Scope: both sides held: hard mode and great advantages

49:15 20VC: ElevenLabs Hits $200M ARR: The Untold Story of Europe's Fastest Growing AI Startup | The Real Cost of AI from Talent to Data Centres | How US VCs are in a Different League to Europeans | The Future of Foundation Models with Mati Staniszewski

Execution intensity gap rooted in work culture

Christian Lanng · Sep 27, 2023

Europe still doesn't grasp how much better the best Silicon Valley startups are at execution, because European culture prioritizes vacation and being home at five

He spent years in Silicon Valley; the extremity of execution he saw there exists nowhere else except China, while Europe competes on life quality instead

Scope: concedes Europe's life-quality offer is attractive to the best AI and engineering talent

41:13 20VC: "How Being a Founder Almost Killed Me"; We Have Lied to a Generation of Founders | The Hardest Truths About Being a Founder Revealed | Why AI Co-Pilot is BS, Seat Pricing is Over & User Interfaces are Stupid with Christian Lanng

Mike Shebat · Nov 27, 2023

It is not accidental that no $100B European company has been created since 1990

Europe lacks the population of people willing to work that way

Scope: said semi-jokingly

20:13 20VC: Keith Rabois and Mike Shebat on Creating an Olympian Mindset to Work Ethic, Why First-Time Founders are Better Than Serial Entrepreneurs, Why Remote Work Does Not Work, Why the Best Founders Always Start in their Teens & Why Companies are Cults?

Senior scaled exec shortage in europe is function specific not general

Markus Villig · Nov 13, 2024

Europe genuinely lacks leaders who have built tech organisations of thousands, but the claim that European talent can't do world-class marketing or engineering is wrong

There are almost no tech companies of that size in Europe so that leadership experience doesn't exist locally; but functional talent is plentiful, people can be brought back from the US, and the best companies' best practices are public and learnable

Scope: concedes the scaled-leadership gap; applies to marketing and large-scale engineering

60:52 20VC: Bolt; The Most Insane Story in Startups | Turning a $5K Loan into an $8BN Company | Why Every VC Turned Down One of Europe's Biggest Winners | Competing with Uber & The Future of Micromobility and Self-Driving

Eléonore Crespo · May 9, 2025 · hedged

It is only partially true that Europe lacks senior execs who have seen scale — the shortage is concentrated in specific functions like marketing, PR, comms and enablement for B2B SaaS, while Europe has competitive advantages elsewhere

Her own executive team is almost entirely in the US because those talent pools are very small in Europe; you should pick the best of both worlds and hire where the biggest pool for that role is

Scope: function-specific, especially B2B SaaS

32:24 20VC: Four Traits of the Most Successful Founders | How to Hunt and Close Talent Like a Pro and Where All Founders Go Wrong | Lessons Raising $397M From the Best Investors in the World with Eléonore Crespo @ Pigment

Talent agglomeration network effects lock in the us lead

Daniel Ek · Mar 8, 2021

Europe's remaining gap versus the US is not capital, raw talent, or ambition but the density of the ecosystem cluster that Silicon Valley and Seattle have

Bringing people who have 'been there, done that' in at a much earlier stage than a normal startup could afford de-risks the venture and lets it grow faster and bigger

Scope: framed as 'my view'; paired with long-term patient capital and repatriating Europeans from Silicon Valley

36:02 20VC: Spotify Founder Daniel Ek on Optimising Decision-Making, Structuring Effective Learning Processes, The Trials and Tribulations in The Transition From Founder To CEO & The Future of Building Prima Materia with Shakil Khan

Brendan Foody · Jun 1, 2026

Europe's inability to compete on frontier models will be very difficult to change because of talent network effects, and US talent aggregation will be one of America's largest economic and geopolitical advantages

The best talent, including brilliant French researchers, aggregates at OpenAI, Anthropic and DeepMind, which compounds into more capital, more compute and more impact

59:47 20VC: Mercor CEO on Why Application Layer Companies Have No Defensibility, The Model is the Product | Token Spend Will Exceed Headcount Spend in 5 Years | The True Cost of Hiring AI Researchers in the Valley Today with Brendan Foody

Targeted energy planning and privacy policy reform could let europe catch up

Alex Schultz · Sep 5, 2025

Europe could still catch up in AI, but only with policy change — chiefly planning and energy in the UK, plus privacy and state-data-access laws that make it hard for big tech to build there

Coming from behind fast is demonstrably possible — Meta went from nowhere two years ago to the vanguard, and Musk did the same; Europe has the talent (Mistral) and needs only the will

Scope: requires huge political will

31:03 20Growth: Meta CMO Alex Schultz on How All Founders Have to Change Their Marketing Playbook in a World of AI | Is AI Plateauing, What it Means if China Wins the AI Race and Why Zuck is a Generational Leader

Jonathan Ross · Sep 29, 2025 · hedged

Europe is not yet out of the race and can still catch up if it acts now, ideally via a Manhattan-project-style allied effort to build energy

Europe has 500M people plus 300M in the US, and allies like South Korea (which built the UAE plant) and France already know how to build nuclear plants; China is ahead only in action

Scope: conditional on acting now; China is ahead in action

36:54 20VC: OpenAI and Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips | NVIDIA Will Be Worth $10TRN | How to Solve the Energy Required for AI... Nuclear | Why China is Behind the US in the Race for AGI with Jonathan Ross, Groq Founder

Visa bureaucracy reform is essential to attract talent

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

Engineering and computer science graduates in the UK should automatically receive a tier two visa, the right to stay and the right to bring their family

China and India are the world's two big talent exporters and most of their graduates head to the US; even those who study in the UK arrive with no intent to stay, and the UK does not welcome them

8:27 20VC: How to Fix the UK Tech Ecosystem | Why We Need to Flood the UK with Venture Capital | What the UK Can Learn From Sequoia, Stripe and Norway | Why Now is the Time to be Bullish on China & Lessons from Jensen Huang with Tom Hulme & Stan Boland

Johannes Reck · Jun 23, 2025

Removing visa red tape and bureaucratic barriers is the other essential lever for attracting talent to Europe

His new CTO from Netflix, a highly paid Indian executive with a signed contract, took six months to get a German visa because the San Francisco consulate only took appointments twice a week; if it is that hard, no wonder Europe lacks a tech ecosystem

11:20 20VC: The Wild Story Raising $450M From Masa and Softbank | Why My Biggest Mistakes Came From Listening to VCs | Why 100 VCs Turned Us Down | Why European Founders Are Tougher Than US Founders with Johannes Reck, GetYourGuide

Scrap r and d tax credits for smes and redirect into venture capital fund of funds

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

UK R&D tax credits for SMEs should be scrapped and the ~£7.5bn redirected into fund-of-funds and active venture capital

There is no quality check — you just prove you spent money loosely classifiable as R&D and get a cheque; it's helicopter money that either goes to companies that don't need it or shouldn't have it, tying up national talent and treasure in zombie companies, whereas active management lets you double down on winners and kill losers

Scope: acknowledges it is a deeply unpopular view; says he could only say this as neither a current VC nor a current CEO

53:18 20VC: How to Fix the UK Tech Ecosystem | Why We Need to Flood the UK with Venture Capital | What the UK Can Learn From Sequoia, Stripe and Norway | Why Now is the Time to be Bullish on China & Lessons from Jensen Huang with Tom Hulme & Stan Boland

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

R&D tax credits should be curtailed and the money redirected into far more venture capital

Scope: acknowledges it is an unpopular view

68:12 20VC: How to Fix the UK Tech Ecosystem | Why We Need to Flood the UK with Venture Capital | What the UK Can Learn From Sequoia, Stripe and Norway | Why Now is the Time to be Bullish on China & Lessons from Jensen Huang with Tom Hulme & Stan Boland

Uk lags us in talent retention mentoring quality and capital so flood uk with venture capital

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

The UK differs from the US in four ways: retaining talent, quality of very-early-stage mentoring, excessive props for failing companies, and a massive capital shortfall — and the fix is to flood the UK with venture capital

The UK runs R&D subsidy at roughly twice the US rate while starving good companies of real risk capital

56:36 20VC: How to Fix the UK Tech Ecosystem | Why We Need to Flood the UK with Venture Capital | What the UK Can Learn From Sequoia, Stripe and Norway | Why Now is the Time to be Bullish on China & Lessons from Jensen Huang with Tom Hulme & Stan Boland

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

The single highest-impact change to the UK tech ecosystem would be flooding it with venture capital

Capital availability is the one lever that can be pulled quickly and a lot flows from it, whereas every other fix takes time

78:02 20VC: How to Fix the UK Tech Ecosystem | Why We Need to Flood the UK with Venture Capital | What the UK Can Learn From Sequoia, Stripe and Norway | Why Now is the Time to be Bullish on China & Lessons from Jensen Huang with Tom Hulme & Stan Boland

Concentrated risk on enclaves like a special economic zone fix europes talent drain

Jonathan Ross · Feb 17, 2025

Europe is not finished — it has the talent but loses it, and it needs concentrated enclaves of risk-on people rather than anything more complicated

You become the average of your five closest friends; in Silicon Valley people are constantly surrounded by entrepreneurs pitching them and by visible success, which makes the leap from big tech to startups possible — Europe lacks that surrounding pressure

Scope: analogy to Groq waiting for LLMs to arrive: right technology, wrong moment

57:58 20VC: NVIDIA vs Groq: The Future of Training vs Inference | Meta, Google, and Microsoft's Data Center Investments: Who Wins | Data, Compute, Models: The Core Bottlenecks in AI & Where Value Will Distribute with Jonathan Ross, Founder @ Groq

Jonathan Ross · Feb 17, 2025 · speculative

Europe should build a 'city F' — a special economic zone that starts at 10,000 risk-on people and expands to a million, with special dispensations and simple rules for employers

Concentrating a million risk-on people creates the surrounding environment that makes entrepreneurship normal, as Station F does at small scale

Scope: those who don't want it can go to other regions of France or Europe

59:42 20VC: NVIDIA vs Groq: The Future of Training vs Inference | Meta, Google, and Microsoft's Data Center Investments: Who Wins | Data, Compute, Models: The Core Bottlenecks in AI & Where Value Will Distribute with Jonathan Ross, Founder @ Groq

Also on the record

Alex Bouaziz · Oct 22, 2025

The Swedish startup ecosystem produces unusually strong founders

Founders there are honest and genuinely care about building great companies and products, it is a tight-knit community like Israel's, and predecessors like Klarna and Spotify paved the way for the current generation

65:51 Tight knit national ecosystems like sweden produce unusually strong founders

Hussein Kanji · Jan 20, 2025

For the first time in European history, Europe is on par with the US in technology creation in a horizontal field rather than a niche, which guarantees investment opportunity here

Previous European strengths were niches — gaming, then fintech after the FCA lowered regulation and built the sandbox — whereas AI is horizontal, and DeepMind is in London and Meta runs its AI work in Paris

52:41 Ai being horizontal not niche gives europe its first genuine parity opportunity with the us

Ophelia Brown · Mar 17, 2023

European founders no longer need to go to Silicon Valley to raise, and now hold the power over who joins their cap table, which has improved the support and information they receive

Ten years ago there wasn't sufficient capital in Europe; now the capital is all here and founders have wised up to being in control of the choice, so VCs constantly have to earn their place

28:31 European founders no longer need silicon valley to raise and now hold cap table power

Ophelia Brown · Mar 17, 2023

Europe needs far more shared learning and collaboration among late-stage founders scaling from Series C to exit

Very few European companies make that journey so the experience is scarce, and founders are too scared to reach out to each other assuming others are too busy, whereas the US culture is much more collaborative

33:30 Lack of late stage founder peer collaboration and shared learning holds back europe

Klaus Hommels · Nov 27, 2024

Europe is under-financing innovation by a factor of eight relative to the levels that created its post-war wealth

In the 1950s–70s banks were regulated in a way that let them finance innovation at ~4% of GDP, producing Bosch, Siemens and Porsche; today venture is the only regulatorily compliant channel and Europe sits at 0.5% of GDP

12:26 Europe underfinances innovation eightfold versus post war bank financed levels

Klaus Hommels · Nov 27, 2024

Banks and government institutions cannot fill Europe's innovation financing gap at early stages; the banking route is the wrong one

Banks have not been trained or gained experience in this kind of financing

13:35 Banks and government cannot fill the early stage financing gap venture must

Klaus Hommels · Nov 27, 2024

The quality of European founders has structurally changed: the copycat era is over and genuine technical innovation now dominates

In the 2000s and early 2010s Continental Europe produced almost no technical founders — technically inclined people were taught economics and were afraid of self-employment, and the copycat machine (Rocket Internet) filled the void; now universities like ETH, TU Munich and KTH produce genuinely technical founders

14:26 Founder quality has structurally improved since the copycat internet era ended

Klaus Hommels · Nov 27, 2024

Continental Europe's core problem is financial illiteracy and culture, not just missing liquidity venues

Europeans, including politicians, don't think about what can be done with money the way the US does; the Frankfurt Stock Exchange charging €400,000 for an IPO photo shows an extractive culture that taxes founders at their proudest moment

16:47 Financial illiteracy and extractive culture not missing venues is the core problem

Klaus Hommels · Nov 27, 2024 · hedged

At the very top of the pyramid European and American work ethic are identical, but Europe's broader base is more complacent and entitled and more preoccupied with woke and ESG discussions

Top performers everywhere fight like maniacs; the difference shows up under the bell curve, where such debates are more prevalent in Europe

61:46 Work ethic parity at the top but broader base more complacent and distracted by ideological debates

David George · Dec 15, 2025

European founders can build generational market-leading companies, so US dominance of the top ten does not mean investors should write off Europe

There are great entrepreneurs in Europe and a16z has backed several, including Mati at ElevenLabs who is building what they view as a generational market leader

17:27 Nothing structural europe already produces generational leaders

Arthur Mensch · Apr 29, 2024

Europe is paying the price of having set up its venture capital system forty to fifty years later than the US

36:33 Late start of europes vc system decades behind the us explains the competitiveness gap

Harry Stebbings · Apr 29, 2024

Europe's VC ecosystem is still largely US-funded, with government institutions backfilling it mostly with poor-quality players while the best European funds are backed by top US institutions

36:52 European vc ecosystem remains dependent on us capital with government backfill of weaker managers

Arthur Mensch · Apr 29, 2024

Senior AI scientists are far easier to find in Silicon Valley than in France, while junior AI talent is abundant in France, Poland and the UK

37:42 Senior ai research talent concentrates in silicon valley while junior talent is abundant in europe

Tobias Lütke · May 4, 2026

Europe's first priority should be dismantling the 'climate cult' — green-party orthodoxy such as reflexive anti-nuclear positions and environmental vetoes that block building critical infrastructure and factories

Green parties have anti-nuclear myths baked into their founding identity, and marginal ecological objections (a frog breeding in a creek) are allowed to block incredibly important infrastructure

43:07 Climate orthodoxy blocking infrastructure is the first thing to fix

Kieran Flanagan · Jul 11, 2025 · hedged

Someone early in their career should seriously question whether Europe is the right continent on which to build it, though Kieran remains hopeful given the companies emerging there

living in Europe means trading off access to the best tools on the planet, a trade he accepts at his career stage but wouldn't obviously accept earlier; still, places like Sweden are producing a lot of strong AI companies

49:01 Early career builders should question building in europe given tool access lag

Anton Osika · Aug 18, 2025

Europe's biggest advantage is that you can be the single dominant talent magnet in a city like Stockholm, plus a stronger culture of humility, low ego, teamwork and doing much more with less

Being the top destination is far harder in San Francisco or New York, whereas in Stockholm Lovable can absorb underutilized talent and 10x their performance through better culture and colleagues

47:36 Being the single dominant talent magnet plus humble culture is europes edge

Taavet Hinrikus · Apr 28, 2025

The single biggest barrier for Europe against China and the US is insufficient early-stage capital for deep tech companies, and political will to buy the output now exists

Deep tech bets like fusion are crazy investments few will make, yet the new German government has said it wants two fusion power plants built

47:20 Insufficient early stage deep tech capital is the binding constraint political will exists

Taavet Hinrikus · Apr 28, 2025

European governments should direct more capital to deep tech, encourage entrepreneurship, reduce regulatory burden, and above all become the biggest customer for European startups through procurement

52:17 Government procurement as biggest customer plus deep tech capital and lighter regulation fixes europe

Daniel Khachab · Oct 28, 2024 · hedged

Europe will not be cut off from AI products entirely; it will simply receive them last and later.

28:47 Europe receives ai products later not excluded entirely

Daniel Khachab · Oct 28, 2024

Regulatory fragmentation is not a uniquely European handicap, since the US has 52 states with separate licensing requirements for things like fintech.

Starting a fintech in the US requires different licenses across dozens of states.

34:00 Us state level fragmentation shows regulatory fragmentation isnt uniquely european

Daniel Khachab · Oct 28, 2024

Truly great founders treat regulatory friction as a solvable obstacle rather than a reason not to build, so Europeans should stop whining about regulation and get pragmatic.

Zuckerberg wouldn't have abandoned Facebook over 20–30 hours of notary work, Musk built a car factory next to Berlin in the home of car manufacturing, and Revolut, Adyen and Spotify have all proven it's possible in Europe.

34:11 Great founders treat regulatory friction as solvable not a reason not to build

Daniel Khachab · Oct 28, 2024

On the status quo he would be short Europe.

Because of government.

35:47 Would short europe on current government trajectory

Harry Stebbings · Oct 28, 2024

If Deutsche Bahn's dysfunction existed in the US, a founder would treat rebuilding the railway as a generational-company opportunity, whereas Europe produces no such response

Deutsche Bahn lacks a profit incentive and is terribly run, which is exactly the setup an American Elon Musk-type founder would attack

62:05 Us entrepreneurs would see dysfunctional monopolies as generational opportunities europe does not

Philipp Freise · Jun 30, 2025

Innovation is the answer to Europe's defense, space and infrastructure gaps, and that innovation is arriving much faster than most people realize

Scarcity and hours of need trigger innovation — the US directing a share of Department of Defense spend into the innovative ecosystem, SpaceX emerging from opening space to the private sphere, and Ukraine still standing thanks to companies like Helsing all show the pattern, and the same is now coming to Europe

31:52 Scarcity triggers rapid innovation that can close europes defense space and infrastructure gaps

Matt Clifford · Jul 1, 2024

In most ecosystems, the very most talented and ambitious people do not become founders by default — which is why there is a huge opportunity to find exceptional founders in the UK, Europe and India

Those people are non-obvious and hard to spot, whereas in the Bay Area there are so many more opportunities for investors to meet them; in the UK the most aspirational job for Cambridge computer science students is still being a trader at Jane Street

45:06 Most talented ambitious people dont default to founding creating sourcing opportunity outside the bay area

Matt Clifford · Jul 1, 2024

Europe's biggest challenge is still talent allocation at the system level, even though at the individual level many exceptional people already choose mission over income.

Individual motivations have shifted, but the aggregate distribution of top talent across professions has not shifted enough.

49:44 System level talent allocation not individual motivation is europes real constraint

Michael Eisenberg · Jun 19, 2024

Punitive AI regulation is far more likely in Europe than in the US, and it will set Europe back in competitiveness even further than the last twenty years have

The US can ill afford to shackle AI companies because it is in competition with China, so it will regulate less than Europe

23:11 Punitive ai regulation more likely in europe and will worsen its competitiveness gap

Harry Stebbings · Aug 15, 2025

Winning in the US is hard for any company and harder still for a European one, and most European companies have failed to gain ground there

56:21 Winning the us market is especially hard for european companies and most fail

Aidan Gomez · Aug 19, 2024

England stands apart from the rest of Europe as a place to build technology companies, because it has genuine technology optimism and a willingness to invest and change to support an ecosystem

There is a local willingness to make the changes necessary to develop a tech ecosystem, unlike continental Europe

52:35 England has genuine tech optimism setting it apart from continental europe

Severin Hacker · May 19, 2025

Duolingo could not have raised any money in Europe, in Switzerland or anywhere, in its early years.

The company had zero revenue for its first five years and no European investor would have backed that.

50:40 European investors would not fund pre revenue consumer bets

Severin Hacker · May 19, 2025

European cultural suspicion of ambition and success — questioning founders' motives and assuming they're only in it for money — is very detrimental to the European startup ecosystem.

In Silicon Valley being a tech founder is seen as admirable and inspiring, so people aspire to it; in Europe founders face suspicion instead.

52:28 Cultural suspicion of ambition and success holds back the ecosystem

Harry Stebbings · Jul 6, 2026

European entrepreneurs should be building more ambitious things than SMB accounting solutions given the current opportunity set

It's an extraordinary moment for frontier bets like energy and data centers

32:09 Ambition deficit founders should attack frontier bets not smb software

Harry Stebbings · Jan 15, 2025 · hedged

Building in the UK has gotten much worse over the last six months

56:31 Uk building conditions have worsened recently

Victor Riparbelli · Jan 15, 2025

The UK government's priority should be not screwing up fundamentals: keep corporate tax and entrepreneurs' relief attractive rather than raising taxes

Relief schemes for people who create jobs and economic productivity are what make the UK attractive relative to much of Europe

58:09 Preserve corporate tax and entrepreneurs relief to keep uk attractive

Victor Riparbelli · Jan 15, 2025

The UK's top priorities should be preserving or improving entrepreneur reliefs, subsidising GPU costs to build a UK data centre advantage, and avoiding overregulation

Cheap compute would be an actual competitive advantage, and Europe shows the failure mode — all the AI regulation and none of the AI companies

60:51 Subsidize compute and avoid overregulation while preserving tax reliefs

Markus Villig · Nov 13, 2024

European investors need to be more ambitious and tolerate long paths to profitability; many demand profitability far too early, before companies reach massive scale

63:40 European investors demand profitability too early should tolerate losses longer

Akin Babayigit · Jun 26, 2023

Europe is not doomed, even though its business competitiveness is genuinely hampered by regulation and bureaucracy

People vote with their feet and Europeans live relatively healthy, high-quality lives with good education and healthcare while making good money; regulatory red tape hurts business but doesn't matter in the grand scheme

40:00 European regulatory drag doesnt doom europe since quality of life matters more than business competitiveness

Eléonore Crespo · May 9, 2025

Europe should play offense on AI — invest far more aggressively in AI and build for global markets rather than Europe only.

Too many European companies think Europe-only while US companies are investing massively in AI.

60:28 Europe should play offense and invest aggressively in ai for global markets

Harry Stebbings · Jun 6, 2025

The UK's top policy priority for startup growth should be making it a magnet for the best talent, specifically an unbelievably friendly place for the best developers to build

The last generation of UK winners — Revolut, Monzo, TransferWise — were all fintechs that existed because London was a financial services hub with an unusually open regulatory stance toward financial data; that combination enabled their birth

58:53 Uk policy should prioritize becoming a magnet for top developer talent building on fintechs regulatory precedent

Matt Pohlson · Jun 6, 2025

UK policy should also target commercialization of university research, because much of what comes out of universities is hard to commercialize while biotech and AI advances commercialize far faster and face fewer impediments

The faster-commercializing areas have fewer impediments, so there should be ways to inflect that

59:31 Commercializing university research should be a uk policy priority alongside talent attraction

Roman Chernin · Jun 8, 2026

Europe's sovereign AI agenda has been too concentrated on megawatts and power and not enough on the builder layer

Megawatts will come — infrastructure companies build when there is demand, and demand comes from builders, so Europe should focus on producing more companies like Lovable, Black Forest Labs and Mistral to create the flywheel that yields good-enough models

45:04 Builder layer not megawatts is europes missing piece

Fernando Fanton · Jul 27, 2025

Europe's safety net and inherited wealth blunt the incentive to work harder, and that historical wealth will not last forever

In Europe the delta between doing okay and doing much better is small, so extra effort has unclear return; in Argentina or Brazil there is no safety net — bad job means dangerous housing, worse education and healthcare — so people push much harder to escape; Argentina itself was very wealthy a hundred years ago and lost it

55:37 Safety net and inherited wealth blunt effort incentive

Harry Stebbings · Jun 27, 2025

Europe under-emphasizes equity compensation even more than the US does, and this shows up in the quality of sales and marketing teams built there

You see the effect especially when building out sales and marketing teams

29:29 Equity under emphasis degrades sales and marketing quality

Harry Stebbings · Jun 5, 2023

Impatience is really important, and the trouble with Europe is that Europeans are very patient

13:44 European patience culture blocks execution speed and impatience is a startup virtue

Matt Lerner · May 31, 2024

Europe's problem is not talent but retention: much of its best talent will relocate to environments friendlier on regulation, funding, labour pools and tax rates, especially with remote work available

Remote work plus more startup-friendly regimes elsewhere make leaving easy and rational for top talent

51:29 Europes problem is talent retention not supply best people relocate

Johannes Reck · Jun 23, 2025

Europe should pump venture capital funding up to match US levels

Europe invests ~€50bn a year in VC versus north of $200bn in the US, and Germany spends €100bn a year subsidising a broken retirement system while investing only €7bn in VC — the priorities make no sense

6:34 Government priorities misallocate away from vc into legacy obligations

Johannes Reck · Jun 23, 2025

Anyone relocating to Europe with a computer science degree or to join a tech company should get massive tax benefits, such as years of tax-free income or untaxed stock options

Europe cannot compete with less capital, a more scattered landscape and more bureaucracy if it also has less talent, so the talent part must be solved

9:21 Aggressive tax incentives for relocating tech talent close the gap

Johannes Reck · Jun 23, 2025

Germany's demographics mean companies there cannot staff themselves domestically even if they wanted to; 90% of GetYourGuide's Berlin employees are non-German simply because those are the only available candidates

Demographic change means there are not enough people in Germany, and even legacy industries like Volkswagen and Mercedes need brilliant software engineers and autonomous-driving talent

10:20 Demographic decline forces reliance on foreign tech talent

Johannes Reck · Jun 23, 2025

If Europe retreats into nationalism and nation states, it will repel exactly the high-skilled people it desperately needs

The talent Europe needs to import will not come to nationalistic countries, even though citizens' frustration with red tape is understandable

12:34 Nationalism repels the high skilled immigrants europe needs

Harry Stebbings · Jun 23, 2025

European governments are fundamentally ill-equipped to reinvest in energy, innovation and technology at the speed required

13:43 Government execution speed not strategy is the constraint

Harry Stebbings · Jun 23, 2025

Europe's power structures are broken and there is no time left, because China and the US are accelerating away from Europe faster than ever

14:13 Urgency window is closing as us and china pull further ahead

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

The UK is no longer the talent magnet it was or could be, and should be capturing the AI talent leaving the UK and the rest of Europe for the US instead of running roughly net-neutral

The UK currently mints about as much AI talent as it keeps — losing people to the US while recovering some from elsewhere in Europe — so it is net flat when it could be 10x better

6:15 Uk should capture net positive ai talent inflow

Tom Hulme · Apr 10, 2025

The UK government should track the percentage of graduates who choose to stay as a leading indicator, instead of the lagging indicators it currently measures

You become what you measure, and great founders focus on leading indicators — as with the Collison brothers tracking the share of online-transacting Series A companies using Stripe

9:01 Track leading indicators like graduate retention not lagging metrics

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

Capital availability is the second great attractor of talent, and the UK's shortage of later-stage capital pushes founders to incorporate in the US from the start

People come to London and the Golden Triangle because they can be funded through Series A, B, C and growth and keep the company here; the UK model has been to build early-stage companies and flip them to America, so founders reason they may as well skip the first stage and get on a plane

9:50 Shortage of late stage capital pushes founders to incorporate in us

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

The UK is short roughly $12B a year of venture capital and should copy the US model

The US created $20T of decacorn value in fifty years versus the UK's two decacorns and ~$170B, two orders of magnitude off; US VCs raised ~$76B last year, which pro rata to population implies $15.4B for the UK against the $3.7B actually raised

10:45 Uk should close the 12bn annual vc gap with the us

Tom Hulme · Apr 10, 2025

The goal should be concentrating the best capital in the best companies, not evenly distributing capital across the market

Even distribution is damaging to talent concentration; you want sophisticated investors identifying the companies that can win and absorb more capital without being overcapitalized

13:04 Concentrate capital in best companies not even distribution

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

The US playbook of writing much larger cheques at much higher valuations raises founder ambition and works, and that is the piece missing in the UK and Europe

Two Cambridge computer scientists could have raised ~£5m on a 20 pre in the UK but raised 30 on a 220 post in San Francisco, with investors now expecting a multi-billion outcome and the capital in place to pursue it

14:01 Larger cheques at higher valuations raise founder ambition

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

Government should take far more risk on fund-of-funds investment and roughly 10x the British Business Bank's annual fund-of-funds commitment

No large fund of funds has ever lost money, and the BBB's ~£424m a year is a drop in the ocean versus the ~£15.4bn the UK ought to be investing

18:32 10x government fund of funds commitment since they rarely lose money

Harry Stebbings · Apr 10, 2025

Prices are not better in the UK than the US; for the best companies UK valuations are extremely inflated

19:51 Uk valuations for best companies are not cheaper than us

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025 · hedged

Europe should build at the top and bottom of the technology stack — AI application companies with defensive moats, and semiconductors close to the metal — rather than the middleware and tools layers, which are easier to build in the US

Europe has the expertise for hardware attached to the metal sold B2B where you get paid for the value of the architecture, and application companies can rely on European-specific moats, whereas the middle of the stack is harder here

24:37 Focus on stack extremes apps and semiconductors not middleware

Tom Hulme · Apr 10, 2025

The UK should stop trying to be expert at everything and instead identify a few unfair advantages and build a whole concentrated ecosystem in one location around each

Focus and specialisation beat spreading thin; if the infrastructure layer is where UK technical talent is world class, the surrounding structure has to be built deliberately there

25:40 Concentrate on a few unfair advantages not broad expertise

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

Europe should be building fabless chip-design IP companies, and it is plausible to build global winners there

About 75% of the value in semiconductors sits in chip design IP rather than fabrication — that is what Nvidia, Qualcomm and Broadcom are — and Europe holds only ~2% of that global market despite having the design capability, including a near-unique full-custom microprocessor capability in Bristol inherited from INMOS

27:14 Europe should build fabless chip design ip companies

Tom Hulme · Apr 10, 2025 · hedged

Strong US investors would relocate to raise UK funds, but only in categories where the UK has a genuine edge — fintech and defence yes, digital health and consumer no

The UK has a good fintech track record and a strong global position; defence is rising with the move toward 3% of GDP; digital health has one major customer and nothing else, and consumer makes no sense outside the biggest markets

33:49 Sector specific edge should guide where us investors relocate funds

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

The UK should set an explicit national goal of creating around £4 trillion of tech wealth over twenty years, with roughly £500bn by year ten.

The US has minted ~$20tn of new tech value over 20–30 years while the UK has managed only ~£100bn; pro rata the UK should be at ~£4tn, so it is £4tn short. Setting the goal forces the follow-on questions — what companies, how much capital — which resolves to roughly £100bn of capital, i.e. about £10bn a year of additional investment, which is exactly the gap in UK venture.

40:35 Set an explicit national tech wealth creation target

Harry Stebbings · Apr 10, 2025

Deploying taxpayer money into private venture funds carries serious political headline risk that makes the plan hard to enact.

Politicians he spends time with are terrified of being fired and of headline risk, and he can already picture the Daily Mail story about taxpayer money funding a VC's Porsche and Hampstead house and concentrating wealth.

44:20 Political headline risk blocks taxpayer funded venture programs

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025

The UK's existing £20-30bn a year of front-end tech and science spending produces almost nothing because it is completely uncoordinated.

Adding up university science funding, SEIS, EIS, VCTs, R&D tax credits and patent box gives about £150bn over a parliament, and what comes out of the pipeline is nothing — some individuals make wealth along the way but no national goal is achieved.

44:52 Uncoordinated spending wastes existing uk tech science budget

Tom Hulme · Apr 10, 2025 · hedged

R&D tax credits are important overall, but should be tapered over time so companies claiming for a decade without building for the future lose them

His view is biased toward early-stage high-growth companies; he doesn't see the zombie claimants Stan describes, and time-based tapering (as with US capital gains treatment) would target the problem

55:54 Taper r and d tax credits over time rather than scrap them to cut zombie claimants

Harry Stebbings · Apr 10, 2025

London will revert to its 1970s state — grim, gloomy and without growth

Rising crime and poor quality of public services

61:08 London risks reverting to 1970s decline due to crime and poor public services

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025 · hedged

London remains a good city and Labour will not let it deteriorate, though they need to move faster on policy changes

He believes the government will listen and change

61:20 London will not be allowed to decline if government moves faster on policy

Tom Hulme · Apr 10, 2025

London's density and proximity — being able to reach government, global corporate HQs and startups in one afternoon — is a real structural advantage over the US and sustains it as a petri dish for growth

The same set of stakeholder meetings would take five hours of flights in the US; combined with multiculturalism and a deep talent pool

61:54 London density and proximity to stakeholders is a structural advantage over the us

Stan Boland · Apr 10, 2025 · hedged

In ten years the UK will have reached a $500B tech valuation and be seen as the magnet in Europe for company building

Government will be forced to recognise that things have not gone well and make positive changes, which combined with more communication of a plan will point the UK in the right direction

79:37 Uk reaches 500bn tech valuation in a decade if government acts

Mati Staniszewski · Sep 8, 2025

Europe's core advantage is exceptional talent that has historically been forced to work for US companies for lack of ambitious local employers, and that is now changing

A large subset of European people want to work hard on something special but had no ambitious European company to join; companies like ElevenLabs, Lovable, Legora and Synthesia now offer that

49:26 Missing ambitious local employers was the barrier now resolving

Andrew Feldman · May 26, 2026 · hedged

Europe has been slow not just to invent new technologies but to adopt them, so it will not be the fastest-adopting region — though it should become a meaningful portion of Cerebras's business in roughly two and a half to five years

45:36 Slow adoption not just slow invention

Harry Stebbings · May 26, 2026

Europe is not behind at the application layer — it has some of the world's best application companies — but it is unwaveringly behind on infrastructure, chips and models

ElevenLabs, Synthesia and DeepMind are world-class European application-layer companies

46:03 Strong at the application layer behind on infrastructure and models

Andrew Feldman · May 26, 2026

A culture in which failure carries no stigma is one of Silicon Valley's most powerful advantages, and Europe's tradition of long single-company careers breeds a conservatism that works against it

US VCs don't hold a crash-and-burn against founders — they ask what you learned and treat it as credit and experience

46:27 Tolerance of failure is the cultural gap

Richard Socher · Apr 18, 2025

Europe should make it easier — possibly with tax benefits — for large enterprises to acquire startups, and should lower barriers to going public, because more VC flows when both exit routes work

Large European companies have a strong not-invented-here mentality, so the acquisition route is weak, and VCs need both acquisition and IPO exits to fund the ecosystem

58:51 Ease acquisitions and ipos with tax benefits to unlock more vc funding

Harry Stebbings · Jun 17, 2024

Sentiment toward Europe is at its lowest point in his career, with US LPs questioning the region and US firms retrenching

He has heard leading European investors say they cannot name a great company out of Europe in the last three to four years

57:32 Us investor sentiment toward europe is at its lowest point in recent memory

Alex Lebrun · Jun 19, 2023 · hedged

French startups do sell too soon: France produces excellent AI and machine learning engineers but is bad at growing companies

The free, maths-focused education system produces strong engineers; but founders lack discipline, focus, and local examples of people who refused big offers — it's hard to turn down a billion dollars if you've never made ten million

42:14 French founders sell too early strong engineers but weak at scaling companies

Harry Stebbings · Jul 29, 2024

Europe does not tax away all of your wealth if you make money — Delian is wrong on this

He pays the highest tax bracket himself and it does not amount to confiscation

62:58 European tax rates on high earners are not confiscatory

Thomas Plantenga · Feb 12, 2024

European regulation fails both to stimulate the companies the continent needs and to tax Chinese and American companies properly, which slows the flywheel of value extraction that funds society

Tax is meant to extract value from the economy to pay for society; if extraction falls, stimulus falls, motivation falls, and the flywheel decelerates further

47:53 European regulation neither stimulates domestic champions nor taxes foreign competitors fairly

Marc Andreessen · Mar 30, 2026

America's distinctive dynamism and risk-taking DNA — fed largely by the inflow of people from all over the world — is what makes enormous bets like the current AI buildout possible, and it could not be replicated elsewhere.

Despite being big, powerful and blessed with geography and resources, the US still throws the harpoon at huge bets; Elon's TeraFab presentation shows an ambition that only this place could support, and there is only one place in the world where Elon could have done what he did over thirty years.

42:50 Us immigration fed risk culture cannot be replicated

Jonathan Ross · Feb 17, 2025

European six-month notice periods and restrictions on immediate job-switching suppress wages and reduce competition; workers should be able to start a new job the next day

If poaching is harder and people are less likely to move, there is less competition for talent, which suppresses wages — and the company pays for the notice period anyway

61:05 Long notice periods suppress wages by blocking job mobility

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